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Bandlab....
By: AJ Date: February 25, 2018, 4:03 pm
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,,,Anybody have any experience with it?
I'd never heard of it until this weekend when I read at HC that
they had bought the intellectual property of Cakewalk. Being a
Sonar user, and the abandonment of same by Gibson, I was
intrigued enough to check out the website.
HTML https://www.bandlab.com/
Looks like you can collaborate online with others, albeit not as
clumsily as we did at Brain Vomit....There seems to even be real
time abilities with the platform....
Think I may sign up, just to be a lurker and see what it's all
about.
Haven't felt particularly creative or collaborative lately.
Edit:
I checked out several of the tunes in the "Rock" category.
Nothing that really stuck with me. I think most, if not all of
this stuff is being recorded utilizing the DAW that comes with
the app...And being recorded on telephones...Several of the
tunes I heard were very poorly mixed...As to be almost
laughable.
Still....I just listened to around 12 tunes and not all of them
all the way through.
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Re: Bandlab....
By: indigo_dave Date: February 26, 2018, 7:35 am
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I just googled Bandlab and one of the search results was the
item linked below. Bandlab is a company in Singapore. A couple
of years ago they bought a 49% share of Rolling Stone. Yeah,
the magazine. Hopefully they have deep pockets.
HTML https://musicindustryblog.wordpress.com/2016/09/26/just-what-is-bandlab-up-to-with-rolling-stone/
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Re: Bandlab....
By: AJ Date: February 26, 2018, 8:21 pm
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[quote author=indigo_dave link=topic=208.msg2158#msg2158
date=1519652123]
I just googled Bandlab and one of the search results was the
item linked below. Bandlab is a company in Singapore. A couple
of years ago they bought a 49% share of Rolling Stone. Yeah,
the magazine. Hopefully they have deep pockets.
HTML https://musicindustryblog.wordpress.com/2016/09/26/just-what-is-bandlab-up-to-with-rolling-stone/
[/quote]
Interesting stuff...Rolling Stone hasn't been what it once was
for decades....Like all print media, they are living on borrowed
time really. The theory put forth by the writer as to why it was
bought rings true. I checked out a bit more Bandlab
offerings.....I'm way too old to get involved in all that.
<ostly sounds like a bunch of noise to me.
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Re: Bandlab....
By: bieke Date: March 1, 2018, 4:54 am
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BandLab also acquired of Heritage guitars last year
Heritage was originally founded by old Kalamazoo crew of Gibson
Heritage also hired Edwin Wilson, the former head of the Gibson
Custom Shop
but recently they laid off 14 of their skilled craftsmen, not in
a nice way
but anyway, Bandlab is also hiring and two of the main Sonar
developers are already back at work.
HTML http://wwmt.com/news/local/14-heritage-guitar-workers-off-the-job-as-company-heads-in-new-direction
similar move at Gibson earlier this week
Henry is doing some spring cleaning and is shopping around with
a 5 year plan to find new investors
but current debtholders want Henry out
HTML https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/music-business/article/20994206/gibson-lays-off-staff-in-nashville-custom-shop
HTML https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/music-business/article/20993464/gibson-ceo-confident-in-refi-prospects-amid-spring-cleaning
HTML https://www.bloombergquint.com/business/2018/02/20/gibson-creditors-are-said-to-want-new-ceo-before-funding-rescue
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Re: Bandlab....
By: indigo_dave Date: March 1, 2018, 7:52 am
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I've never owned a Gibson guitar, but it makes me a bit sad to
see established American icons struggling. This includes (for
me) JC Penney and Sears. The Sears store I'd known for more
than 50 years recently closed. Next thing I knew it was razed.
I guess these things are part of the some sort of natural
business cycle. I'm glad that Sonar seems to be surviving.
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Re: Bandlab....
By: dinkleburg Date: March 5, 2018, 10:01 am
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Never tried Bandlab, but I did mess around on Kompoz a few years
ago. It was fun and whatnot, but it was also very cliquey. There
where maybe a half a dozen artists always monopolizing the front
age, it seemed to me.
OTOH, I did learn a few tricks about collaborating with other
players over the interwebz.
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Re: Bandlab....
By: AJ Date: March 5, 2018, 7:06 pm
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[quote author=dinkleburg link=topic=208.msg2200#msg2200
date=1520265688]
Never tried Bandlab, but I did mess around on Kompoz a few years
ago. It was fun and whatnot, but it was also very cliquey. There
where maybe a half a dozen artists always monopolizing the front
age, it seemed to me.
OTOH, I did learn a few tricks about collaborating with other
players over the interwebz.
[/quote]
Do tell?
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Re: Bandlab....
By: dinkleburg Date: March 6, 2018, 9:10 am
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[quote author=AJ link=topic=208.msg2202#msg2202 date=1520298416]
[quote author=dinkleburg link=topic=208.msg2200#msg2200
date=1520265688]
Never tried Bandlab, but I did mess around on Kompoz a few years
ago. It was fun and whatnot, but it was also very cliquey. There
where maybe a half a dozen artists always monopolizing the front
age, it seemed to me.
OTOH, I did learn a few tricks about collaborating with other
players over the interwebz.
[/quote]
Do tell?
[/quote]
Well, on the tech side of things I learned that some MP3
encoders will add or remove space at the beginning of a track,
thus messing up the track synchronization. The upshot of this is
that you should use WAV files whenever possible. The free
version of Kompoz only allows MP3's, so they use sync tones. A
sync tone is a tone at the beginning of a project which the
engineer can use to align all of the tracks so that they stay
synced.
On the life side of things, I learned to develop a thick skin
and open mind when collaborating. You (I) need to accept that
after you upload your contribution, it is quite likely the
recipient will chop it up, cut out parts and shuffle other parts
around to his/her own liking and add whatever effects and
processing sounds good to his or her ear. These changes may
differ greatly from your original concept. One needs to go with
the flow, so to speak. It took me a while to figure this one
out. ;)
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Re: Bandlab....
By: AJ Date: March 6, 2018, 9:22 pm
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[quote author=dinkleburg link=topic=208.msg2206#msg2206
date=1520349039]
[quote author=AJ link=topic=208.msg2202#msg2202 date=1520298416]
[quote author=dinkleburg link=topic=208.msg2200#msg2200
date=1520265688]
Never tried Bandlab, but I did mess around on Kompoz a few years
ago. It was fun and whatnot, but it was also very cliquey. There
where maybe a half a dozen artists always monopolizing the front
age, it seemed to me.
OTOH, I did learn a few tricks about collaborating with other
players over the interwebz.
[/quote]
Do tell?
[/quote]
Well, on the tech side of things I learned that some MP3
encoders will add or remove space at the beginning of a track,
thus messing up the track synchronization. The upshot of this is
that you should use WAV files whenever possible. The free
version of Kompoz only allows MP3's, so they use sync tones. A
sync tone is a tone at the beginning of a project which the
engineer can use to align all of the tracks so that they stay
synced.
On the life side of things, I learned to develop a thick skin
and open mind when collaborating. You (I) need to accept that
after you upload your contribution, it is quite likely the
recipient will chop it up, cut out parts and shuffle other parts
around to his/her own liking and add whatever effects and
processing sounds good to his or her ear. These changes may
differ greatly from your original concept. One needs to go with
the flow, so to speak. It took me a while to figure this one
out. ;)
[/quote]
The sync thing has been a bugaboo in my limited experience. My
entire online collab thing was with the Vomiteers however.
There were sync problems all the time.
It was great fun though. Bieke always had some surprises up his
sleeve, and while some of my stuff ended up on the cutting room
floor, the songs were better for it.
For my money, Bieke was the workhorse and you were the star of
that little band,
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Re: Bandlab....
By: dinkleburg Date: March 7, 2018, 5:30 pm
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[quote author=AJ link=topic=208.msg2209#msg2209 date=1520392937]
[quote author=dinkleburg link=topic=208.msg2206#msg2206
date=1520349039]
[quote author=AJ link=topic=208.msg2202#msg2202 date=1520298416]
[quote author=dinkleburg link=topic=208.msg2200#msg2200
date=1520265688]
Never tried Bandlab, but I did mess around on Kompoz a few years
ago. It was fun and whatnot, but it was also very cliquey. There
where maybe a half a dozen artists always monopolizing the front
age, it seemed to me.
OTOH, I did learn a few tricks about collaborating with other
players over the interwebz.
[/quote]
Do tell?
[/quote]
Well, on the tech side of things I learned that some MP3
encoders will add or remove space at the beginning of a track,
thus messing up the track synchronization. The upshot of this is
that you should use WAV files whenever possible. The free
version of Kompoz only allows MP3's, so they use sync tones. A
sync tone is a tone at the beginning of a project which the
engineer can use to align all of the tracks so that they stay
synced.
On the life side of things, I learned to develop a thick skin
and open mind when collaborating. You (I) need to accept that
after you upload your contribution, it is quite likely the
recipient will chop it up, cut out parts and shuffle other parts
around to his/her own liking and add whatever effects and
processing sounds good to his or her ear. These changes may
differ greatly from your original concept. One needs to go with
the flow, so to speak. It took me a while to figure this one
out. ;)
[/quote]
The sync thing has been a bugaboo in my limited experience. My
entire online collab thing was with the Vomiteers however.
There were sync problems all the time.
It was great fun though. Bieke always had some surprises up his
sleeve, and while some of my stuff ended up on the cutting room
floor, the songs were better for it.
For my money, Bieke was the workhorse and you were the star of
that little band,
[/quote]
Agreed about bieke. The dude did most of the heavy lifting.
Thanks, bieke!
I don't think the Vomiteers really had a "star". I prefer to
think of it as something that is greater than the sum of its
parts. I could never come up with music like that on my own,
that's for sure. :)
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