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Re: My latest musical clutter
By: AJ Date: February 9, 2018, 5:57 pm
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I'm not hearing any distortion really. But I'm hearing
some...Bumps? like maybe something hitting whatever is holding
the microphone you're recording the piece with.
How did you record this? As much detail as you have. I'm
assuming you just have one or more mikes placed. Did you record
into Presonus or...Well just tell me how you done it Dave.
Your singing is really improving and you seem to have real
confidence....Cool.
I actually like your version better than Eric Clapton's, but
you're a stronger singer than he is.
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Re: My latest musical clutter
By: indigo_dave Date: February 9, 2018, 8:48 pm
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The video AND audio are being recorded with a Sony HDR-MV1.
It's as fueking simple as it can be. It has little X/Y
configured mics (can't remember the other cool feature about the
mics). But there is a Power button and and ON/OFF button. No
zoom or focus or nothing. There is a menu you can drill down to.
But I just get a friend to start it and I start playing. If
I'm lucky enough to make it thru till the end of the song, I
pause and my friend hits the ON/OFF button again. If I were
hitting the button myself there'd be that annoying before and
after shot of me starting/stopping the camera and sitting
down/standing up. I would want to snip the beginning and end
of the video. But don't know how. I opened up my Roxio Creator
NXT 5 software and opened some video editing software. But got a
message about my video resolution needing to be set higher. But
is is. So I dunno.
May need to redo Over The Rainbow.
Regarding the singing, I'm experimenting. Sometimes experiments
fail, sometimes not. But this could be one way of singing,
among other ways. You know what a character actor is. Well
I've thought that there could be a character writer or a
character singer. One could try to write with Bert Bacharach in
mind as a model. Or Neil Young. Or try modeling after a singer.
Or maybe try combining traits from 2 different singers.
Whatever.
But I'm kind of thinking of that Billy Eckstine style from the
1940's. Thanks for listening AJ. I also did
"ACouplaEllingtons" . I'll share that later on.
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Re: My latest musical clutter
By: indigo_dave Date: February 9, 2018, 9:10 pm
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Listening to it I again, I'm wondering if the mics are clipping.
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Re: My latest musical clutter
By: AJ Date: February 9, 2018, 9:35 pm
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[quote author=indigo_dave link=topic=197.msg2057#msg2057
date=1518232241]
Listening to it I again, I'm wondering if the mics are clipping.
[/quote]
Possible.....Y'know....I've said this before...But I'd really
like for you to try to record a little cleaner. I know you are
all about the organic approach...But try recording with your
keyboard audio outs going into your audio interface to Pre
Sonus, or into your tascam multitrack workstation...In other
words ...Eschew recording the piano from the speakers. Clamp on
some headphones and just a mic for your vocals. That will
eliminate the clacking of the keyboard, and singing directly
into the mic will capture your vocals and the dynamics so much
better......Plus you'll then have an opportunity to fine tune
your mix...some eq maybe some compression.....
But I've suggested this before ..Lol...So I ...Lol..really don't
expect you to change....And perhaps you shouldn't
:))
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Re: My latest musical clutter
By: indigo_dave Date: February 10, 2018, 7:37 am
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I seem to prefer recording thru the air over the antiseptic
direct in thing. I've often said that I'm not a perfectionist,
I'm a pragmatist. Whatever that means in this particular case.
But then, positioning the mic to best advantage becomes
critical. There's the rub.
This is the 2 Ellington songs: "Do Nothing Till You Hear From
Me" and "Prelude To A Kiss"
HTML https://youtu.be/oj4PIaZuRbM
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Re: My latest musical clutter
By: AJ Date: February 10, 2018, 1:52 pm
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[quote author=indigo_dave link=topic=197.msg2059#msg2059
date=1518269875]
I seem to prefer recording thru the air over the antiseptic
direct in thing. I've often said that I'm not a perfectionist,
I'm a pragmatist. Whatever that means in this particular case.
But then, positioning the mic to best advantage becomes
critical. There's the rub.
This is the 2 Ellington songs: "Do Nothing Till You Hear From
Me" and "Prelude To A Kiss"
HTML https://youtu.be/oj4PIaZuRbM
[/quote]
Good reads on both songs Dave.
I think you could do with a producer. A producer with the same
tolerance for dissent as Adolf Hitler though. ;D
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Re: My latest musical clutter
By: indigo_dave Date: February 10, 2018, 2:08 pm
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Funny. I literally just thinking about Hitler. But not how
you'd imagine. I was thinking along the lines of a Facebook
posting about how the mainstream accounts of Hitler mass
murdering people was Fake News...at least if Fox News were
around in the 1940's.
But again AJ, thanks for your mind's ears - i.e. listening.
Today I listened to Alan Parsons being interviewed about 4 years
or so ago. I didn't realize he started out as a green young'un
working for Abbey Road and the Beatles. You know I'm the ONLY
ONE on the planet who doesn't get all the hoopla over "Dark Side
Of The Moon". I wikipedia'd it and found there are references
to various things like Syd Barrett's mental illness and other
things. But to me, I always just hear very simplistic
uninventive music. Like I said, I know I'm all alone in this.
But, in the interview Parsons quoted Glynn Johns as saying "Let
It Be" was a good album until Phil Spector puked on it. Never
heard that before. Love the line.
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Re: My latest musical clutter
By: indigo_dave Date: February 10, 2018, 2:53 pm
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A cute story AJ. I'm got a call asking me to play at an ALF -
assisted living facility on Mondays from 4 to 5. They have
various pianists 365 days from 4 to 5. For a social hour when
the bar in the lobby gives them free beer or wine. It's an
amenity to living there.
Some of the folks like to nitpik the pianists. It's a Kawai
grand piano badly in need of tuning. But I played my typical
variety of old folk friendly songs - a sort of musical salad. I
play a lot of 40-60's stuff like "Yellowbird" "Alley Cat" "Rose
of San Antone" - a mixed bag. I played "Girl From Ipanema"
followed by "Theme From MASH". While playing MASH an elderly
man walked up to me and told me I need to play slower.
Huh ? I need to play slower. I was confused. The a lady about
5-7 feet behind me (there are 3 comfy upholstered chairs there)
told me I need to play quiter. Huh ? So, in an inspired
moment, with a big grin on my face, I said "so you want me to
play slower (pointing to him) , you want me to play quiter" and
I pointed to a third lady sitting next to her and said "would
you like me to play louder ? I want to make as many people
miserable as I can !".
I'd give you a bit more context, but I really want to get out
and bike right now. Cheers.
God doG ! I fucking love NPR. They are good for your mind.
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Re: My latest musical clutter
By: AJ Date: February 10, 2018, 3:43 pm
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Joint reply to your last two posts:
"Dark Side of the Moon" is probably, to me at least, both the
Apogee and the Nadir of Psychedelic music. One could say at the
root of it, it's simplistic music, but it's complexities lie in
all the different colors, textures, tone, and recording methods
used. It's a tour de force of production. Utilizing virtually
all the tech available at that time. The lyrics are as simple as
the music...But the lyrics in "Eclipse" are truly
timeless...Pure Zen really. As universal as "Imagine"...Which is
also simplistic really.
Simplistic is, by and large, what touches people. Complex music
is really just masturbation to a great extent. While those of us
in this forum appreciate it...Sometimes only to the extent that
we admire the discipline it requires to compose and/or execute
it....The majority of folks...It simply confounds.
I am sure you are not alone in your dismissal of DSOTM...I am
certainly not in your company in that regard. I think it's
Floyd's finest moment. While not the more visceral and "Rocking"
exercise that "Animals" is, or the ambitious, wide scope
juggernaut of "The Wall"...It's as solid, track by track as say,
"Pepper". Just IMHO of course.
That was a cute story BTW.....neither you or I are that far from
being in that audiences company are we though? :)
Lucky no one said "Too many notes" ;D
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Re: My latest musical clutter
By: indigo_dave Date: February 11, 2018, 11:18 am
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Regarding DSOTM, I really should listen to the whole album. I'm
speaking from a position of ignorance. I only have some
familiarity with the songs I've heard played on the radio thru
the years. BUT, I will venture to say that the songs I can
(sort of) hear in my mind's ears from DSOTM could be played
along with with little effort - without and calculation or
figuring out. I'd submit to you that to play the even the
earliest Beatles hit songs "I Want To Hold Your Hand" or "She
Loves You" would take a bit of figuring out, before playing
along with.
On the other hand, DSOTM must have sold what ? 50 million
copies or something. Must have something going on.
I have spent my whole adult life trying to cultivate my musical
skills. I tend to gravitate toward the musical craftsmen. That
would exclude say, Bob Dylan. He's a master craftsman with
words. Not so much with music.
Many would disagree with me. That's what I'm here for - to be
disagreeable. Just opinions.
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