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       #Post#: 1974--------------------------------------------------
       I Generally Don't Play Covers, However...
       By: belleswell Date: January 19, 2018, 1:40 pm
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       I generally don't play covers, however..
       I have one I did by Gary Moore after learning of his passing.
       The Loner  RIP Gary.
       j
  HTML https://soundcloud.com/belleswell/tlc
       #Post#: 1976--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I Generally Don't Play Covers, However...
       By: AJ Date: January 19, 2018, 6:40 pm
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       GREAT COVERS MAN!
       I loved Gary Moore. He brought such pure tone and utter abandon
       to everything he played.
       Have you seen this?
  HTML https://youtu.be/J0esLF_z8qg
       #Post#: 1977--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I Generally Don't Play Covers, However...
       By: AJ Date: January 19, 2018, 7:33 pm
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       Also....And forgive me for doing this but I can't resist..
       I don't play covers often, but when I do, I drink Dos Equis
       #Post#: 1989--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I Generally Don't Play Covers, However...
       By: belleswell Date: January 22, 2018, 10:24 am
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       Thanks AJ,
       This was my third attempt to illicit a response from anyone
       here other than yourself at listening to my soundcloud posted
       songs. Nothing. You were the one and only.
       The stats I track at SC confirm that each of these posts was
       followed up by one listen, and that would be you. Thank you so
       much.
       Here is the first reply I got from Bucky when I made my intro
       post.
       [quote
       author=
  HTML http://thebasement.createaforum.com/index.php?action=post;quote=1791;topic=173.0;last_msg=1827Bucky<br
       />link=topic=173.msg1791#msg1791 date=1514237913]
       I'm jealous of your Ibanez collection. You're not welcome here.
       Kidding. Welcome! You're a good player!
       [/quote]
       There is a little truth in every jibe, I know now that indeed
       his words, "You're not welcome here." ring true.  I'm afraid
       this is my last post here as I can tell when I'm not wanted or
       welcome. You know where to find me.
       Sorry I didn't fit in. Good luck, Jeff
       #Post#: 1990--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I Generally Don't Play Covers, However...
       By: AJ Date: January 22, 2018, 6:51 pm
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       Jeff,
       I know Bucky was kidding about the you not being welcome
       here. He and I as well are playfully sarcastic at times and you
       know when you can't see someone's face things can get
       misconstrued in a hurry. No one knows this better than I. I've
       lost two other members through my own oafishness in this regard.
       I wish you would hang out....And I'm sorry if you were made
       to feel unwelcome....This is not the most active place in
       cyberspace to be sure though and I can see where you might have
       been bored...Or even felt ignored to an extent. I pray it wasn't
       I that made you feel that way.....I try to respond to every
       single post here and as promptly as possible.
       For the record...I was disappointed at the lack of even
       acknowledgement of the music you posted. There are other
       musicians here that regularly post their work and I always
       listen and always respond....It'a simple matter of manners....
       I'm really sorry to lose you Jeff...I wish you'd
       reconsider.....But you and I can always keep up on SC....
       Thanks for being here for the brief time you were...You're a
       real gentleman and a great player.
       :'(
       #Post#: 2013--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I Generally Don't Play Covers, However...
       By: indigo_dave Date: January 26, 2018, 10:24 am
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       I'm sorry to read your perceived offense  Belleswelle.  This
       forum - the Basement - is a very small group.  I'm a pianist,
       who plays piano in a conventional sense.  No synths or organs.
       There seems to be maybe about 4 semi-regulars here.   My
       interest, musically speaking, leans more toward how things are
       constructed musically. That is to say, the bass line, any
       complimentary guitar lines, vocal harmonies, and so on.
       What I see in guitarists is an interest in the "tone" a guitar
       player gets.  Pedals to shape the tone. What amps are used in
       getting that tone. And so on.  I'm more of a mind to find a good
       sound that suits me and then run with that.  As an acoustic
       oriented pianist, that's as close as I can get to an authentic
       acoustic sound.
       So I mostly sit silent when people obsess over guitar tone.   AJ
       generously listens to all of our musical posts.  I will often
       give a cursory partial listen, but if there's nothing that
       stands out in the chord progressions (i.e. harmonic movement),
       the rhythm, etc.  I generally move on.
       You (Belleswelle) are not the only one who doesn't get listened
       to.  The democratization the internet has given all of us makes
       our music accessible by the whole internet world. But it's hard
       to stand out in all the clutter.  Of course one man's clutter is
       another man's prized music.
       #Post#: 2016--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I Generally Don't Play Covers, However...
       By: AJ Date: January 26, 2018, 6:26 pm
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       [quote author=indigo_dave link=topic=192.msg2013#msg2013
       date=1516983846]
       I'm sorry to read your perceived offense  Belleswelle.  This
       forum - the Basement - is a very small group.  I'm a pianist,
       who plays piano in a conventional sense.  No synths or organs.
       There seems to be maybe about 4 semi-regulars here.   My
       interest, musically speaking, leans more toward how things are
       constructed musically. That is to say, the bass line, any
       complimentary guitar lines, vocal harmonies, and so on.
       What I see in guitarists is an interest in the "tone" a guitar
       player gets.  Pedals to shape the tone. What amps are used in
       getting that tone. And so on.  I'm more of a mind to find a good
       sound that suits me and then run with that.  As an acoustic
       oriented pianist, that's as close as I can get to an authentic
       acoustic sound.
       So I mostly sit silent when people obsess over guitar tone.   AJ
       generously listens to all of our musical posts.  I will often
       give a cursory partial listen, but if there's nothing that
       stands out in the chord progressions (i.e. harmonic movement),
       the rhythm, etc.  I generally move on.
       You (Belleswelle) are not the only one who doesn't get listened
       to.  The democratization the internet has given all of us makes
       our music accessible by the whole internet world. But it's hard
       to stand out in all the clutter.  Of course one man's clutter is
       another man's prized music.
       [/quote]
       I appreciate you hanging with us here Dave....I know this place
       seems to be guitar centric most of the time...Me and Bucky
       obsess over tone, gear....Stuff that probably doesn't interest
       you at all.
       I appreciate your contributions, I enjoy your music very much,
       and I value your friendship....If I knew some more keyboard
       players I'd reach out to them just so you'd have a kindred
       spirit in that regard.
       Thanks for being...
       #Post#: 2020--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I Generally Don't Play Covers, However...
       By: indigo_dave Date: January 27, 2018, 11:12 am
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       There's nothing wrong with the Basement being guitar-centric.
       It reflects most of the guys who visit.  And while I appreciate
       your thought regarding reaching out to other keyboard players,
       it's totally unnecessary.  I visit the Keyboard Corner forum
       sometimes. It's loaded with various and sundry keyboard dudes.
       Some of them are synthesizer devotees.  I have little in common
       with them since they seem to be in a quest for the perfect tone
       also (tee hee).
       My belief is that the tone is like the ink pen with which an
       artist draws a picture - a pen and ink drawing. It's my opinion
       that the pen is the medium, while the drawing is the point of
       the exercise. And it seems to me that many guitar players get
       sidetracked into obsessing over the ink pen they're using.
       Of course, now I've pissed off the people I neglected to piss of
       in the previous posting.  But hey,  can't people discuss a
       point, and disagree ?
       #Post#: 2021--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I Generally Don't Play Covers, However...
       By: AJ Date: January 27, 2018, 12:48 pm
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       [quote author=indigo_dave link=topic=192.msg2020#msg2020
       date=1517073140]
       There's nothing wrong with the Basement being guitar-centric.
       It reflects most of the guys who visit.  And while I appreciate
       your thought regarding reaching out to other keyboard players,
       it's totally unnecessary.  I visit the Keyboard Corner forum
       sometimes. It's loaded with various and sundry keyboard dudes.
       Some of them are synthesizer devotees.  I have little in common
       with them since they seem to be in a quest for the perfect tone
       also (tee hee).
       My belief is that the tone is like the ink pen with which an
       artist draws a picture - a pen and ink drawing. It's my opinion
       that the pen is the medium, while the drawing is the point of
       the exercise. And it seems to me that many guitar players get
       sidetracked into obsessing over the ink pen they're using.
       Of course, now I've pissed off the people I neglected to piss of
       in the previous posting.  But hey,  can't people discuss a
       point, and disagree ?
       [/quote]
       Lol...You haven't pissed anybody I know of. I suppose your
       metaphor is open to dissection though.
       Agreed. The drawing is the point of the exercise...The
       instrument being the  pen.....It's the ink that is the tone. The
       darkness or lightness. The playing would be the finesse involved
       in the character of the drawing. I mean...if we're drawing say,
       a clay pot. A clay pot is a clay pot. The only differences would
       be.."I think that's the drawing of a clay pot." ..."That's a
       drawing of a clay pot"....."That is a wonderful drawing of a
       clay pot"......"DAMN! That is an unbelievably brilliant drawing
       of a clay pot!"
       Yes...A lot of guitar players obsess over tone. Guitar
       players obsess over more damn tech issues than you can imagine
       Dave. The Gear Page is full of guitar players obsessing over
       every single facet of guitars, amps, pedals, strings, scales,
       playing techniques....Ad Nausea-um.....And argue about same.
       Elicit any opinion about anything guitar related over there and
       you'll instantly find any number of people ready with arguments.
       
       #Post#: 2114--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I Generally Don't Play Covers, However...
       By: Bucky Date: February 19, 2018, 11:48 am
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       I've been playing more acoustic than electric for the past two
       years. It fills up space in a way that doesn't require reverb or
       delay. I don't obsess over tone, but I do like playing with it.
       My default tone is a fuzz of some sort with a cranked amp model,
       but I rarely record with the amp and effects I have on my
       Digitech without tinkering with reverb or something.
       Robert Fripp said that guitar is a fickle instrument, and I
       spent a long time trying to expand it as he did, but the
       acoustic guitar cuts out all the ego and tone obsession. It's
       about pure expression.
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