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       #Post#: 1956--------------------------------------------------
       ok...It's pretty danged miserable here
       By: AJ Date: January 16, 2018, 8:46 pm
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       All day long it's been sleeting and snowing and that's abating
       shortly....But it's going to get down in the teens tonight and
       all that moisture is gonna ice up the freeways even worse than
       they are now.
       We knocked off at Noon today. A good thing. The overpasses were
       already freezing over on my way home.
       Made a big pot of chili. A big batch of shrimp fried rice for
       the Lad...Who won't eat anything made with ground meat in
       it....And also is a bit Asian wanna be...I think it's the Anime
       thing.
       Had a couple of cups of decaf after dinner, with copious amounts
       of Kahlua in it. Feeling quite warm and cozy despite the fact
       that the windows in my Office/Music room are covered in ice.
       This kind of weather is very rare here. The local TV stations
       had nothing but weather related stuff on all day. Wreck
       coverage, Reporters slipping around on icy streets...Bunch of
       morons really. Exaggerating everything to the max. The road
       conditions are serious however and I'm glad we shut the shop
       down early, the guy on call was instructed to put off any
       service calls due to the inclement conditions.
       Should start melting off in 48 hours and we'll probably have
       service calls out the Ass then...But that's then.  Tonight it's
       coffee and Kahlua....
       #Post#: 1957--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ok...It's pretty danged miserable here
       By: Bucky Date: January 16, 2018, 11:06 pm
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       We went to see Milky Chance in Atlanta, and I had to drive back
       in snow that was like gritty sand. I racked up experience
       driving in ice and snow in Virginia, but I've never driven when
       it's like this.
       #Post#: 1964--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ok...It's pretty danged miserable here
       By: indigo_dave Date: January 18, 2018, 7:35 am
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       Wednesday was cold here but with a high of maybe 65.  I took a
       walk and by the end of the walk, around 5 PM, I could feel the
       temp dropping.
       Thursday morn (now) it's sunny and cold, but maybe around 35 F.
       And sunny.  Those northern jet streams are dipping much further
       south.
       #Post#: 1965--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ok...It's pretty danged miserable here
       By: AJ Date: January 18, 2018, 6:47 pm
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       [quote author=indigo_dave link=topic=190.msg1964#msg1964
       date=1516282532]
       Wednesday was cold here but with a high of maybe 65.  I took a
       walk and by the end of the walk, around 5 PM, I could feel the
       temp dropping.
       Thursday morn (now) it's sunny and cold, but maybe around 35 F.
       And sunny.  Those northern jet streams are dipping much further
       south.
       [/quote]
       ...And the deniers say "Look, It's colder than normal! This is
       global warming?"
       Well yes Virginia, it fucking is. The flip side of global
       warming is colder, longer winters to go with the Hotter,Longer
       summers.
       #Post#: 1969--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ok...It's pretty danged miserable here
       By: indigo_dave Date: January 19, 2018, 10:59 am
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       The bullshitters are spewing bullshit to cloud the issues.
       Trump's constant lies create clouds.  In a Facebook post, going
       against the current (seemed to be ALL Trumpers),  I made a
       comment about Trump's money laundering.  If you read any of a
       variety of sources, Trump was involved with Felix Sater who's
       reportedly very mob connected.  The reply from the Trumpers was
       that Hillary was the money launderer. The Clintons were
       investigated for years by Ken Starr. Hillary spent what (?), 11
       hours being questioned by a Senate committee.  Trump wouldn't
       survive 1 hour without several perjuries.   The truth has been
       severely undermined.  There's Fox News,  which is THE truth by
       one side. Then there is the WHOLE journalist community which is
       completely dismissed by the Trumpers.
       Therefore the climate change concerns voiced by scientists, are
       complete lies.
       #Post#: 1975--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ok...It's pretty danged miserable here
       By: AJ Date: January 19, 2018, 6:35 pm
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       [quote author=indigo_dave link=topic=190.msg1969#msg1969
       date=1516381154]
       The bullshitters are spewing bullshit to cloud the issues.
       Trump's constant lies create clouds.  In a Facebook post, going
       against the current (seemed to be ALL Trumpers),  I made a
       comment about Trump's money laundering.  If you read any of a
       variety of sources, Trump was involved with Felix Sater who's
       reportedly very mob connected.  The reply from the Trumpers was
       that Hillary was the money launderer. The Clintons were
       investigated for years by Ken Starr. Hillary spent what (?), 11
       hours being questioned by a Senate committee.  Trump wouldn't
       survive 1 hour without several perjuries.   The truth has been
       severely undermined.  There's Fox News,  which is THE truth by
       one side. Then there is the WHOLE journalist community which is
       completely dismissed by the Trumpers.
       Therefore the climate change concerns voiced by scientists, are
       complete lies.
       [/quote]
       Kenneth Starr spent tens of millions of our dollars chasing the
       Clintons and came up exactly nothing definitively linking them
       to criminal fiduciary activity. Oh he linked Bill to several
       women to be sure. Billy likes the ladies. And there were what
       looked like some iffy sweetheart deals involving the Rose Law
       Firm....But no indictments.
       Starr became obsessed with the whole thing...At our expense.
       Fox News isn't the only questionable news outfit around though.
       They are unabashedly right wing. Msnbc is unabashedly Left wing.
       The Washington Post just wants to hang every politician in
       sight...Which is a good thing really.
       this could go on for days........In short...I trust the
       scientists that have dedicated their lives and careers to
       studying our planets atmosphere. I believe Climate change is the
       greatest danger to our species along with overpopulation. We
       have the power to change direction with  both of these things.
       The powers that explore for and exploit fossil fuels are the
       main financial forces behind the deniers....And far too many of
       the deniers are politicians...supported by those powers.
       #Post#: 1980--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ok...It's pretty danged miserable here
       By: indigo_dave Date: January 20, 2018, 8:53 am
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       I read that Tucker Carlson and Hannity both aired someone
       voicing a new conspiracy theory. This one was that the Las Vegas
       mass murderer was ISIS  connected.  They guy had zero evidence.
       But BOTH ASSHOLES aired the conspiracy without pushback.
       Pretending to be "objective".  Fucking assholes.
       I have no problem with conservative or liberal leanings. But for
       fucking sake, be intellectually honest. I saw Chuck Todd (on a
       Meet The Press Daily segment)  interviewing someone from
       Brietbart.  The guy referred to a "story"  Chuck Todd pointed
       out that NBC did NOT air this particular story because they
       could not verify it from a separate source.  This is the problem
       with Rupert Murdoch's Fox.  They have people prattling on,
       promoting rumors that suit Murdoch's directives.
       We need a new model. Dunno what that would be.
       #Post#: 1981--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ok...It's pretty danged miserable here
       By: AJ Date: January 20, 2018, 11:02 am
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       [quote author=indigo_dave link=topic=190.msg1980#msg1980
       date=1516460012]
       I read that Tucker Carlson and Hannity both aired someone
       voicing a new conspiracy theory. This one was that the Las Vegas
       mass murderer was ISIS  connected.  They guy had zero evidence.
       But BOTH ASSHOLES aired the conspiracy without pushback.
       Pretending to be "objective".  Fucking assholes.
       I have no problem with conservative or liberal leanings. But for
       fucking sake, be intellectually honest. I saw Chuck Todd (on a
       Meet The Press Daily segment)  interviewing someone from
       Brietbart.  The guy referred to a "story"  Chuck Todd pointed
       out that NBC did NOT air this particular story because they
       could not verify it from a separate source.  This is the problem
       with Rupert Murdoch's Fox.  They have people prattling on,
       promoting rumors that suit Murdoch's directives.
       We need a new model. Dunno what that would be.
       [/quote]
       I'd submit that the model we need is an old one......Honest,
       Objective reporting.The The Walter Cronkite, Edward R. Murrow
       model. The Ben Bradlee model.  The you don't print or broadcast
       shit unless you have the irrefutable, undeniable, verifiable
       truths of the story at hand for all to see and hear and read.
       That may be a hard hill to climb with sensationalism ruling the
       day.
       #Post#: 1982--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ok...It's pretty danged miserable here
       By: indigo_dave Date: January 20, 2018, 4:44 pm
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       Ted Koepell (sp?) was one I think. Of course he aged out. But I
       have read that disciplined honest [i]journalists[i] require at
       least 2 sources. to make a story public.  I'll say I think Fox's
       journalists probably adhere to this. But in their prime time
       they air Tucker Carlson (replaced harasser Bill O'reily)  and
       Shaun Hannity.  I read that some guy was murdered named Seth
       Rich. Hannity and fellow fabricators (whoever the hell came up
       with the bullshit)  pushed a murder conspiracy story. With no
       evidence. When threatened with sewage (i.e. lawsuit) he stopped
       pedaling this on air. But I read it was up on Fox's website for
       another week before coming down.
       Last week after Trump's "shithole" remark (you may not have
       heard about it ! (wink wink) I watched Tucker Carlson's intro
       segment. He turned the story around - didn't actually quote
       Trump's line - and moralized about how Trump is being attacked
       for wanting the best people. Actually I like a merit based
       system - but not giving preference to the Aryan (sp?)  master
       race.  I've read that Donald's dad was in the clan in NYC. But
       most media haven't publicized this. Maybe because the sins of
       the father aren't the sins of the son (or WTF).  But imagine
       what Fox would do in a similar scenario - oh wait - the Obama
       Kenya Muslim horseshit noise.
       Now tell me which lefty leaning organization is as full of shit
       as  Fox News.  You can say CNN is left leaning. But come on.
       Even the fucking Wall St Journal broke the $130k payoff story.
       Murdoch owned.  But as far as I know, Fox hasn't covered.  This
       is evidence based - someone traced some records and connected
       dots. Fox also made nary a peep when Roger Ailes and Bill
       O'Reilly were outed as pervs.
       Just want to go on the record.
       #Post#: 1983--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ok...It's pretty danged miserable here
       By: indigo_dave Date: January 20, 2018, 4:47 pm
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       I think NPR does great work actually.  I often watch the BBC
       American 30 minute news cast here at 6 PM before the bit
       networks at 630.
       I also watch some NNK (a Japanese newschannel in English) and
       sometimes a DW (Deutsche Welle - I think) newscast.
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