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       #Post#: 1888--------------------------------------------------
       Harley Benton guitars?
       By: AJ Date: January 7, 2018, 9:25 pm
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       ...It's German outfit that sells both guitar kits and ready to
       play guitars. Seem too reasonably priced to be worth much.
       Anybody got any intel on them?
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       Re: Harley Benton guitars?
       By: bieke Date: January 8, 2018, 7:57 am
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       yeah, they're everywhere at this side of the pond
       it's the house brand of one of the bigger German big box stores,
       Thomann
       the other German big box store Musicstore, has J&D Guitars as a
       house brand
       Musicstore and Thomann are always trying to beat eachother in
       the budget segment, so these J&D or Harley Benton guitars are
       cheap
       and surprinsingly good value for money
       they focus on making copies of popular models from Gibson,
       Fender, Gretsch, PRS, Ibanez, Ovation, Martin, Rickenbacker,
       Musicman
       Harley Benton also has amps, cabs, effects (rebranded Joyo
       pedals) and accesories
       Harley Benton started 15 years ago
       can be compared to Agile or SX
       I never had one, the ones I tried felt OK
       construction and finish is usually OK, hardware and electronics
       are a bit wonky
       They have an unofficial forum
  HTML http://theharleybentonclub.proboards.com/
       And browse the endless Harley Benton inventory at Thomann
  HTML https://www.thomann.de/gb/search.html?gk=gi&bf=harley_benton&vf=true&filter=true&price-first=0&price-last=55000&viewMode=block
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       Re: Harley Benton guitars?
       By: AJ Date: January 8, 2018, 6:25 pm
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       Thanks for the info Bieke. A guy at HC has a video up of him
       taking delivery and playing a HB that looks kind of Teleish .
       Sounded pretty bland clean though.
       #Post#: 1893--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harley Benton guitars?
       By: bieke Date: January 9, 2018, 4:17 am
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       Well, HB used Wilkinson pickups before and now switched to
       Roswell pickups
       the pups (and the electronics) are the major cons of the HB
       guitars
       there's a nice looking Rosewood style Tele in the practice room,
       not mine
       but I did try it and it was OK, I'd say 90% of that Tele sound
       is there
       playability and finish is very good for a 150$ guitar
       one of these TE70-RW
  HTML https://thumbs.static-thomann.de/thumb/bdbmagic/pics/prod/329661.jpg
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       Re: Harley Benton guitars?
       By: AJ Date: January 9, 2018, 10:17 pm
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       Have you ever seen one of their kits? There seem to be a number
       of places that offer guitar kits. I  noticed on some of HB's
       kits, the headstocks just look like blanks where you could shape
       them your self. I suppose it's a given that the electronics
       supplied with the kits would be sub-par at best.
       I've been toying with the idea of buying a kit and trying my
       luck at building a guitar. I do have several good pickups laying
       around, DiMarzio, Emg, Fender. But it's just an idea at this
       point.
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       Re: Harley Benton guitars?
       By: bieke Date: January 10, 2018, 5:09 am
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       haven't seen the HB kits in person
       but the other guitarist in my other band ordered a P-bass style
       kit
       he just retired and has loads of free time
       and he's handy with woodworking tools
       it also was his first build
       and the assembled finished guitar is of course not a quality
       instrument
       but it plays and sounds fine
       and he said it was fun project
       when I decided to build that Tele (featured in the sticky
       thread)
       I took my time and waited for parts to pop up in the local ads,
       on eBay, Reverb, guitar shows I visited
       that was a bit time consuming and took me a while, 1,5 years to
       obtain all the parts, but the hunt is nicer than the catch
       and once I got all the parts, the final assembly only took a
       couple of hours
       so all in (including my latest upgrades, I think I have little
       more than 445$ invested in that guitar, and it has a proper
       nitro finished alder body (blem, has a couple of dents in it but
       who cares), a Fender licensed neck (also blem, had some finish
       flaws), all hardware is Fender, compensated saddles, Gotoh
       tuners, Alpha pots, cloth wire, Fred Stuart blackguard pickups,
       a bakelite pickguard, bone nut, ...
       the only thing I still want to sort out are fitting  slothead
       pickguard screws and shorther slothead saddle screws
       and then it's just perfect
       it is the 3rd Tele I made like this, same process, sourcing the
       parts was more exciting than finishing the build
       so if you got a good set of pups already, start from there and
       accumulate all the parts you need to make the guitar exactly to
       your own specs
       you'll be much better off in the end
       yeah, you can get a kit
       I would not recommend the HB kit, the bodies are really poor
       quality wood, not basswood for sure, the necks are acceptable,
       hardware is a bit iffy, electronics are cheap
       but slamming it together is fun and you'll have the freedom to
       finish and upgrade it to your personal taste, but anything
       invested in one of those budget MIC kits is money thrown out the
       window imho
       you can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter
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       Re: Harley Benton guitars?
       By: AJ Date: January 10, 2018, 6:12 pm
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       That's good advice and info Bieke...Thanks Bro!
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       Re: Harley Benton guitars?
       By: belleswell Date: January 11, 2018, 7:22 pm
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       I've read some good things about them (HB's), on a forum for
       Agiles. As far as entry level pricing, quality and sound, I've
       been a fan of Agiles. Made in South Korea and one of the best
       bangs for the buck going imo. I bought one to start. I fell in
       love with it, and ordered a custom made LP style with Floyd, and
       was very impressed. Between 2012 when I bought my first, and
       2015 when I bought my last one, (I've actually not bought any
       guitars in over 2 years which is a new record for me), I now
       have 6 of them out of 36 total in my collection.  They are that
       good.
       
       Jeff
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       Re: Harley Benton guitars?
       By: AJ Date: January 11, 2018, 7:53 pm
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       Really haven't checked Agiles out at all....I may need to go to
       that special place in Hell...Guitar Center. and check one out.
       #Post#: 1904--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harley Benton guitars?
       By: belleswell Date: January 11, 2018, 9:07 pm
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       [quote author=AJ link=topic=183.msg1903#msg1903 date=1515722028]
       Really haven't checked Agiles out at all....I may need to go to
       that special place in Hell...Guitar Center. and check one out.
       [/quote]
       Go to www.rondomusic.com.  Once at the site, type in the word
       Agile in the search window. (Rondo also sells Douglas , SX and
       some others).
       Once at the Agile page, there are two drop down windows at the
       top of the page. Select "highest to lowest price" from one of
       the drop down windows.
       From the other you can select how many to see per page. Select
       "all". This will put everyone of them on the same page from the
       highest price to the lowest.
       These offerings change often and are stock pics of the guitar.
       The one you will receive will usually be nicer than the stock
       photo, but if it's not, and your not
       happy for any reason, you can send it back for another with a
       "nicer" top, or get a complete refund. Kurt stands behind them
       and has a great policy in this regard.
       J
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