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       Re: Vegas
   DIR By: Bucky
       Date: October 6, 2017, 9:08 am
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       Still don’t get why Imp deleted his account.
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       Re: Vegas
   DIR By: indigo_dave
       Date: October 6, 2017, 11:50 am
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       I agree with Bucky and Imp.  Yes both.   I also plan to buy a
       gun. And I think it's sad and tragic. I keep wondering what I'd
       do if someone were banging on my door at 2 or 3 AM.  There are
       occasionally home invasions here in Orlando.  True, that it's
       often someone who knows their victim. But not always.  I just
       want to be able to stop someone who plans victimize me.  AND I
       think it's sad I feel this way.
       The root problem, in my view is Big Money.  Big Money runs so
       much in the USA.  They control many of our elections. They
       barrage political races with negative ads against people who
       advocate  sensible controls.  Gerrymandering has undermined the
       intent of a voting democracy.
       We live in a time when our president can say utterly moronic and
       hateful things and still get a pass with a significant base of
       the population.  We are living in an episode of the Twilight
       Zone.  Did you read that Pat Robertson said that the Vegas
       murders were a consequence of people disrespecting Donald Trump
       ?  Shut your mind off, and simply listen to these idiots and
       praise what they say and do.  Mindlessly.
       #Post#: 1186--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vegas
   DIR By: AJ
       Date: October 6, 2017, 6:25 pm
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       --- Quote from: Bucky link ---
       >
       > Still don’t get why Imp deleted his account.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He's been sore at me since I started this place. He never
       admitted it, but I know he was.
       Ironic really. I started this place because of the big blowup
       between him and Luke...thinking it would be a safe harbor for
       all since I am not given to fits of depression that I act out in
       public. I mean, I do get a bit drunk from time to time because
       it makes me happy.
       Anyway, now Luke hardly ever comes by, Bieke's too busy most of
       the time, and while Imp was by no means a regular, at least he
       came by every now and then.
       I guess he thinks I'm a Mad Dog Murderin' American now.
       So there's three of us now that post regularly and the three of
       us get along quite well, we exchange opinions without fireworks
       even when we differ. And Bieke of course...When he has the time.
       If you're lurking Imp, feel free to come back anytime.
       #Post#: 1187--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vegas
   DIR By: Luke17
       Date: October 7, 2017, 8:44 am
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       I stayed out of this whole Vegas debacle thread because I saw
       where it was going.
       If I said anything at all, after the smoke cleared, everyone
       would kiss and make up and I would be the mean spirited 'Patsy'
       once again.
       I've barely posted anything in the last two weeks, and you are
       STILL trying to put a spin on this fallout that it is somehow my
       fault....
       AJ, you sent out a call for me to join in your little cat fight
       on this thread  twice...to no avail...
       You claim you started this site because of the 'big blowup'
       between Imp and Me...I call bullshit...you were pissed at Imp
       for telling you not to infuse politics into one of his
       threads..you  then sent me a PM telling me how unhinged Imp was
       becoming,  and you were  going to start a site of your own.
       We (Nick and I) DID have an original falling out on his site,
       it got ugly...but  He graciously lifted my ban, and after some
       initial sparring and posturing we settled back into what seemed
       like a good rapport.
       Imp then told you he didn't want you bringing 'politics' into
       one of his threads...you replied questioning his remark....
       Then Imp started deleting threads that we all put some time in
       to contributing to...
       In my opinion he was acting erratically, so I informed him
       something to the effect;
       'Imp, I love you, but you have become a bit too 'mercurial' for
       me, and then I left the site..there was no 'blowup' that I can
       remember...that was it.
       (BTW..right after that. you took my word 'mercurial' and used it
       in a PM to Imp to describe me..)
       I noticed you copped a lot of my vocabulary and posted my words/
       phrases on other sites..that's OK,
       I don't have a patent on those things.
       When you started this site, I waited about ten days to join, I
       wanted to see if Imp would feel comfortable posting here,
       figuring If I wasn't around, he would feel more inclined to
       post.
       He joined but didn't post,
       So I came on board.
       AJ..your a good guy, but you are also a  'Bochinche'   (Spanish
       for 'Gossiper' usually a word reserved for old ladies who like
       to 'stir the pot')  ...sending PMs behind the scenes,  always
       trying to be 'Charles in Charge' ...but your well meaning?
       attempts at Détente always seemed to do more damage than good.
       I told you right from the 'get go' on Marks original site, I
       don't like PMs..if you have something to say..post it on the
       site..no back door manuevers.
       You should really take a bit of responsibility for some of the
       acrimony that has transpired on this site, Imps site, and Marks
       site,
       Remember  when you jumped into Marks shit when you perceived he
       slighted Imp, for example?
       Then you came back with your tail between your legs and
       apologized to Mark.
       You are now blaming Imp for being mad at you for starting this
       site, because he closed his account here...
       I don't think he was mad nor jealous you started this site..and
       you are trying to blame me for your recent 'war of words'
       because Imp and I had our obvious fights.
       You have to 'man up' and take some responsiblity for the 'dust
       ups' here. stop using me as your scapegoat.
       Can't blame this one on me...Though I know you would have  liked
       to... ::)
       You tried to pull me into shit sling,  but  this 'old goat', as
       you recently referred to me,  didn't take the bait.
       I'm outta here.
       #Post#: 1188--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vegas
   DIR By: Bucky
       Date: October 7, 2017, 10:23 am
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       Not going to take sides here. I will say that your impression of
       Joe is not my own. Things one person or the other said about
       you, Luke, are also not my own.
       You’re both great guys. I understand there is a history here,
       and I’m not as privy to it. However, I really don’t think Joe is
       nearly as methodical and calculating of drama as your post makes
       him seem.
       But that’s just my POV. I still don’t get why Imp left, don’t
       think anyone said anything terribly offensive, and it’s all
       lame. I mean, if anyone would know drama, look at how I got
       banned from Harmony Central!
       #Post#: 1189--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vegas
   DIR By: AJ
       Date: October 7, 2017, 10:53 am
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       Luke, I was not trying to call you into the catfight. You have
       barely posted here in weeks and I was simply trying to get you
       back in here. I didn't need any backup.
       You stopped posting , for reasons I still don't know. Evidently
       though, I did something that angered you, prior to the last few
       days. I haven't sent you any pm's since you disappeared.
       When you left Brain Vomit, you sent me an e-mail saying we could
       still meet at Mark's place, and expressed friendship, which I
       embraced. I did start this place hoping to remain friends with
       you and all the other's, and I regret that you harbor such
       feelings towards me.
       Addressing all your accusations would be an exercise in futility
       on my part.
       You are still welcome here however. Mad or happy.
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