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       Re: The Vietnam War
       By: indigo_dave Date: September 20, 2017, 6:40 pm
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       I have to confess, about that asshole Xiem (thing that's his
       name). The Catholic family with the sister in law asshole. It
       sounds like a Netflix original series.  Anyway,  after he
       negotiated stepping away in exchange for guarantee of safe
       passage out. An armored car picks him up. And shortly after he's
       shot in the head.  I found myself thinking "yay".  Why did we
       always seem to support oppressors and ignore opportunities to
       try democracy.  Maybe they were afraid of the Communist domino
       thing.
       I dunno.
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       Re: The Vietnam War
       By: AJ Date: September 20, 2017, 9:08 pm
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       [quote author=indigo_dave link=topic=100.msg1027#msg1027
       date=1505950815]
       I have to confess, about that asshole Xiem (thing that's his
       name). The Catholic family with the sister in law asshole. It
       sounds like a Netflix original series.  Anyway,  after he
       negotiated stepping away in exchange for guarantee of safe
       passage out. An armored car picks him up. And shortly after he's
       shot in the head.  I found myself thinking "yay".  Why did we
       always seem to support oppressors and ignore opportunities to
       try democracy.  Maybe they were afraid of the Communist domino
       thing.
       I dunno.
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       They were afraid of everything Dave. LBJ did more for the people
       of his country than any President since FDR....But he had no
       foreign policy chops at all...And had terrible advisors. William
       Westmoreland should have been court martialed  for his
       ineptness, and his lies. McNamara finally copped to his
       mistakes...But too late for at least 58,000 American
       boys......And that's just the dead ones. That doesn't count all
       the walking wounded...Nor the 1,000,000+ Viernamese.
       #Post#: 1035--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Vietnam War
       By: Luke17 Date: September 21, 2017, 7:43 am
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       Yes the Vietnamese;
       Westy's infamous line about them.
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       Re: The Vietnam War
       By: AJ Date: September 21, 2017, 6:52 pm
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       What an asshole.....All he cared about was his own rep.
       Every episode I watch, I wonder even more how so many learned
       men, could make so very many mistakes, on so many different
       issues.
       The extent of deceit is simply incredible. Not a lot of what is
       being revealed is exactly new to me. I've not been asleep the
       last 40 years. But to have all of this back, in a fluid,
       timeline....Well it pisses me off and saddens me all over again.
       It also makes me turn a freshly jaundiced eye towards anything
       coming out of the State department concerning our military
       actions around the planet.
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       Re: The Vietnam War
       By: AJ Date: September 26, 2017, 11:22 pm
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       The more episodes I watch, the more depressed I get.
       I think perhaps our Government has been lying to us since we won
       independence from the previous Government, that was lying to us.
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