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       Spiritual interpretation
       By: colin Date: March 20, 2013, 10:51 pm
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       I've seen it written here that parables are teachings with
       hidden me teachings. Well I would say that a parable is a
       teaching written in earthly sayings with heavenly meanings. With
       Spiritual meaning. Right from the beginning, the bible, being
       our spiritual guide says God created heaven and earth. Well the
       earthly teaching says what it says but Spiritually, the bible
       teaches us that heaven is the place where we are in fellowship
       with God. When the Spirit of God is upon you , heaven is upon
       you and the earth , being the ground of this world, but from the
       bible we see that when the waters are seperated the earth
       appears and is not the earth the place where we walk in our walk
       with the Lord after we come out of that great sea of iniquity.
       God planted a garden in the earth for his son to tend and is
       this not the garden where the righteousness of God is cultivated
       , where the seeds are planted and the trees grow and bare fruit.
       and what do these trees bare if it is not the fruit of
       knowledge. Did Adam and Eve die or where they seperated from God
       and if it is the word that clothes us, what are the skins of
       animals if not the words of men that are like beast because of
       their sinful nature. Did Cain kill Abel as a physical death or
       was his death as Adams because of Cain's sinful nature. Blood
       doesn't cry out from the earth. Was their really a flood and God
       killed the whole world or was their a flood of images from
       sinful people because God turned his face away from the world.
       Was Noah drunk from wine or did he plant a vineyard where Jesus,
       the vine took root and weren't the people of God like the great
       cluster of grapes for God.
       I could go on and on with what does this mean spiritually. I
       am convinced the bible is written with a hidden more righteous
       teaching and these are the secrets of the kingdom of heaven.I
       call this the spiritual interpretation of the word. I guess you
       could just say the Spiritual understanding.
       And then you come to the new testament. Everything there has a
       spiritual understanding too. Did Jesus walk on water or stay
       above the sinfulness of this world. Did he teach from the
       fishing boats. I just know that all he did back then or as it is
       written has a spiritual understanding and this shows the true
       divine nature of Jesus as the christ. I know i see the father
       threw the son. I know it is a wonderfull gift from God and I
       love it so much.
       #Post#: 303--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Spiritual interpretation
       By: alphaomega Date: March 21, 2013, 10:39 am
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       [quote author=colin link=topic=71.msg302#msg302 date=1363837902]
       I've seen it written here that parables are teachings with
       hidden me teachings. Well I would say that a parable is a
       teaching written in earthly sayings with heavenly meanings. With
       Spiritual meaning. Right from the beginning, the bible, being
       our spiritual guide says God created heaven and earth. Well the
       earthly teaching says what it says but Spiritually, the bible
       teaches us that heaven is the place where we are in fellowship
       with God. When the Spirit of God is upon you , heaven is upon
       you and the earth , being the ground of this world, but from the
       bible we see that when the waters are seperated the earth
       appears and is not the earth the place where we walk in our walk
       with the Lord after we come out of that great sea of iniquity.
       God planted a garden in the earth for his son to tend and is
       this not the garden where the righteousness of God is cultivated
       , where the seeds are planted and the trees grow and bare fruit.
       and what do these trees bare if it is not the fruit of
       knowledge. Did Adam and Eve die or where they seperated from God
       and if it is the word that clothes us, what are the skins of
       animals if not the words of men that are like beast because of
       their sinful nature. Did Cain kill Abel as a physical death or
       was his death as Adams because of Cain's sinful nature. Blood
       doesn't cry out from the earth. Was their really a flood and God
       killed the whole world or was their a flood of images from
       sinful people because God turned his face away from the world.
       Was Noah drunk from wine or did he plant a vineyard where Jesus,
       the vine took root and weren't the people of God like the great
       cluster of grapes for God.
       I could go on and on with what does this mean spiritually. I
       am convinced the bible is written with a hidden more righteous
       teaching and these are the secrets of the kingdom of heaven.I
       call this the spiritual interpretation of the word. I guess you
       could just say the Spiritual understanding.
       And then you come to the new testament. Everything there has a
       spiritual understanding too. Did Jesus walk on water or stay
       above the sinfulness of this world. Did he teach from the
       fishing boats. I just know that all he did back then or as it is
       written has a spiritual understanding and this shows the true
       divine nature of Jesus as the christ. I know i see the father
       threw the son. I know it is a wonderfull gift from God and I
       love it so much.
       [/quote]
       in your post here ; you have spoken of parables as well as
       brought up the issue of water
       * walking on water
       * teaching from boats
       and you have said ; there is a deeper spiritual meaning to all
       of these.
       are you now ready to pick one of these parables and engage in
       conversation about these meanings?
       #Post#: 305--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Spiritual interpretation
       By: colin Date: March 21, 2013, 6:06 pm
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       Yes Patrick, I would love too. Which one my friend. Anyway,
       there are two sorts of water, the waters from above the
       firmament, living water. The waters below gathered together are
       called the sea. The Lord himself is a fountain of living waters
       and the waters are teachings from above or from the father but
       the waters become nations and peoples because they are teachings
       and the people of these teachings are followers and believers of
       them. The sea is the sea of disbelief, but it means they do not
       believe in the true teachings . They are the sea of iniquity.
       Then there are like roaring waves of  even terror and treachery
       in the storms of discontent. The spirits are like the winds and
       they are blowing in time of change. The church is like the ship
       and the disciples are the fishermen but they are fishers of men
       and the word is a net to cast into the sea. The church is
       suppose to be from above and it too must not sink into the
       iniquity of this world so when Jesus was above the water he was
       above the iniquity of it all too. So peter trying to walk on
       water but sinking  means he was not strong enough to keep above
       the sinful nature but the hand of the Lord is his council so
       with the Lord's council Peter stayed above it. Raising the hands
       are raising the council of the word to a higher level of
       understanding, higher righteousness. Like going up the
       mountains. The people by the sea shores are like the sands of
       the sea being washed in the lowers all the time This is why when
       Jesus spoke to them it was in parables but to those who do have
       ears to hear what is being said it is plane and well understood.
       So is the bible not like that. There is a big difference in the
       old and the new testaments. Jesus himself is a living parable of
       the father and according to how and what we see when we see him
       is to see Jesus and, or the father. To understand with the flesh
       is to have eyes but not see. When he spoke, the carnal thoughts
       are to hear but not understand. This is what Jesus meant when he
       said, before i spoke to you in parables but now I speak plainly.
       This is because they were getting council of the Spirit and
       before that they did not comprehend.
       #Post#: 307--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Spiritual interpretation
       By: alphaomega Date: March 22, 2013, 1:15 pm
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       i like your new topic ;
       so lets do both the light and the water starting at both genesis
       one and john one
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