DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
---------------------------------------------------------
The Alpha and The Omega Christian Forums
HTML https://thealphatheomega.createaforum.com
---------------------------------------------------------
*****************************************************
DIR Return to: Spiritual Interpretations
*****************************************************
#Post#: 96--------------------------------------------------
The Key, the keys
By: colin Date: November 27, 2012, 9:46 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
What are the Keys, the keys to the kingdom of heaven. The
key of David, the keys to the house of David. The keys to the
bottomless pit and of death. The keys are the keys of knowledge.
Knowledge of heaven, he that holds it holds the keys. He that
holds the keys holds the knowledge. Are there more then one
holding the keys at once, I think only one first and then the
several. I know the Lord told peter to help straingthen his
brethren when he comes into his power and and he told Peter he
gave him the keys to the kingdom of heaven. When Peter said you
are the son of the living God and Jesus said that the knowledge
he had was from the father. Jesus speaks of giving someone the
keys of david and no man can open when he has shut or no man can
shut when he has opened. But still I think when the knowledge is
given all that hold that knowledge , holds the keys.
This what we call spiritual interpretation, I call spiritual
knowledge and I believe it is knowledge of the kingdom. What is
it? well from the beginning when the bible says God created
heaven and earth, as the world understands it means the sky
above and the earth we live on but to me it means more. Heaven
is the place where you dwell in knowledge of that place while
the earth is the dwelling of the place with knowledge of the
earth. Not the literal earth or heaven but then when you
understand , it is heaven and earth, just with a different
understanding. So then it is like a language but a language uses
different words to say the same thing while this is a tongue
that uses the same words to say something different. I say it is
the tongue of Angels because Angels are created to do the will
of God and as I understand it , it is in this spiritual language
that you come to know the will of God. So this is the tongue of
Angles. The healing word of knowledge that edifies the church
and heals people from the afflictions of the Body. Not physical
healings but Spiritual and when this knowledge is Given, it is
like when Jesus said to his disciples , to you it is given but
the others hear not or the would be healed and converted.
I can show you guys what the Lord has given me and all those
riches I've stored up in heaven. They say it was Peter that held
the keys to the pearly gates and are not those pearls the pearls
of wisdom and those gates the gates of learning. Jesus said his
flock can go in and out freely, I assume without bondage. He
said his flock will hear his voice and know it.
Patrick, you said this forum was created for you, well I want
to use this forum for the Lord. Let us love each other with that
brotherly Kiss and straingthen each other in the knowledge Jesus
gives us and use those Keys wisely.
#Post#: 98--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Key, the keys
By: alphaomega Date: November 28, 2012, 6:11 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
[quote author=colin link=topic=45.msg96#msg96 date=1354074406]
Patrick, you said this forum was created for you, well I want
to use this forum for the Lord. Let us love each other with that
brotherly Kiss and straingthen each other in the knowledge Jesus
gives us and use those Keys wisely.
[/quote]
hi colin;
this forum is created by me
the purpose i have set as the goal
is to go deeper
why?
because it is my belief
that there is truth in the verse "my ways are not your ways"
and to this verse ; a seeker of truth must accept
* god has a message
* god has been revieling this message
* and !!!; we can't know this message WITHOUT LISTENING TO HIM
THE FUNNY THING IS ........
everything you speak of { and i have known and heard you speak
for a long time now }
speaks to this very point !
BUT ................................
after you say this {in my opinion} i don't see you carry it
further
an example
the keys of david
the keys to the house of david
the keys of the gates of hell
ok; what about them????
then you moved to gates
pearly
knowledge
gates of hades
and then its off to the language of angels???
i would hope to hear from you ;
and have with you ;
a conversation on "keys"
before i can accept conversation on language of keys
this is not saying ;
----------------------- you are right or wrong
it me saying
------------------------ how can i be expect to keep up when
the foundation of keys has not been established ato just what
you are saying
how this jumped to language of angels is beyond me
i believe that you have some things to say ;
but please;
let me catch up with you
what is your point on keys { as an example}
before we jump to the next subject
let me show you through a coversation of mine to illistrate
here i will speak but you won't be able to keep up;
because the thought and points don't have a foundation set
the trinity
the trinity is seen in the water of genesis one
water is split apart and becomes two other parts
god has become jesus and the holy spirit
the church world doesnt see this
as shown with its conversations on the state of women
women
from the land came adam
god breathed into adam
{ the image of god ; the soul of adam}
then !!! eve is created from adam
did god breathe into her ?
did god breathe into you?
where did eve get her soul?
where did you get your soul ?
th answer to this is
adam got the image of god ; the soul
that soul has been tranfered to each after that time
it is the same soul that sinnith
and now eve
is she also {just like jesus}
split apart from something else ?
god splits and jesus is separated yet still one with
adam splits and eve is separtated yet still one with adam
moving into today
each women we see today is not from her husband
and therefor not beneath her husband
nor is she owned by her husband
adam and eve where both from adam
today in marriage this is not the case
whereas with jesus
that oneness bond of god stills remains
in that jesus is not created
he is god in a split away form
eve is adam
just in a split away form
we are the bride of christ ; violates this concept
we are not god but in a separated form
christians are formed out of the marrage of the bride of christ
and jesus
and by rule of kinsman redeemer { we go back to the first
husband of the bride}
thus; we are sons {children} of god
ok; all of this i believe to be true
yet; i know without a foundation { an explanation of the
statements above } i know you can't follow this
right? ; see my point ?
so;
is your topic about keys ?
then; what about them?
please take a subject and build your case
i want to hear it ; see it ; discuss it
but without the seeing and discussing it ;
i can't hear it
ok?
#Post#: 100--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Key, the keys
By: colin Date: November 29, 2012, 12:09 am
---------------------------------------------------------
Patrick, the keys are knowledge. If you have the knowledge of
David you hold the keys to the house of David or if you have the
keys to the kingdom , you have the knowledge of the kingdom and
likewise if your understanding is of the gates of hell, that is
knowledge the person posesses. The reason i went to the tongues
of angels is if you have the knowledge of the kingdom , you are
able to do the will of God and an angel is created to do the
will of God as far as I understand.
*****************************************************