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       The sword
   DIR By: colin
       Date: November 24, 2012, 9:16 pm
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       And Jesus said, think not that I have come to bring peace,
       not peace but a sword. He that lives by the sword will die by
       the sword.
       Where or what is this sword if it is not the word, the word
       is a sword, two edged sword, kills both ways, use it, die by it.
       But yet how can this be? The bible is an armerary of weapons and
       all words and the only way to use the word and not die by the
       word is to understand it. Not understand it as this world
       understands it but to understand it with the thoughts from
       above, God's thoughts. The Lord didn't say we could not use the
       sword, just not live by it. All Jesus did and said was a sword
       against the enemies of his people. He even called his own
       disciples evil. He said if yee being evil know how to give good
       gifts to you children how much greater will your father in
       heaven give you. For your father in heaven to be your father in
       heaven you must be born of the heavenly teachings, the word with
       a heavenly understanding. Otherwise the father in heaven is not
       your father in heaven, your father is the evil one. The way of
       this world is evil so the worlds understanding of the word is
       against you and the sword Jesus brought instead of the peace
       that come from knowing the father from above, that joy of
       knowing him and the rest from all the fighting and spiritual
       battles going on without people even recognizing it.
       #Post#: 95--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The sword
   DIR By: alphaomega
       Date: November 27, 2012, 5:10 pm
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       --- Quote from: colin link ---
       >
       > And Jesus said, think not that I have come to bring peace, not
       peace but a sword. He that lives by the sword will die by the
       sword.
       > Where or what is this sword if it is not the word, the word is
       a sword, two edged sword, kills both ways, use it, die by it.
       But yet how can this be? The bible is an armerary of weapons and
       all words and the only way to use the word and not die by the
       word is to understand it. Not understand it as this world
       understands it but to understand it with the thoughts from
       above, God's thoughts. The Lord didn't say we could not use the
       sword, just not live by it. All Jesus did and said was a sword
       against the enemies of his people. He even called his own
       disciples evil. He said if yee being evil know how to give good
       gifts to you children how much greater will your father in
       heaven give you. For your father in heaven to be your father in
       heaven you must be born of the heavenly teachings, the word with
       a heavenly understanding. Otherwise the father in heaven is not
       your father in heaven, your father is the evil one. The way of
       this world is evil so the worlds understanding of the word is
       against you and the sword Jesus brought instead of the peace
       that come from knowing the father from above, that joy of
       knowing him and the rest from all the fighting and spiritual
       battles going on without people even recognizing it.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       at the time that JESUS said this ...... who was family with GOD
       ?
       YOU HAvE SAID " All Jesus did and said was a sword against the
       enemies of his people. He even called his own disciples evil. "
       i would say "none" are family with GOD until the death of JESUS
       opens the door to be KINSMAN REDEEMED
       * KEEP GOING
       #Post#: 106--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The sword
   DIR By: Raina
       Date: December 2, 2012, 11:34 pm
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       > [center]Matthew 10:34
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       > New Living Translation (NLT)
       >
       > 34 “Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace to the earth! I
       came not to bring peace, but a sword.[/center]
       --- End Quote ---
       --- Quote ---
       > [center]Ephesians 6:17
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       > King James Version (KJV)
       >
       > 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the
       Spirit, which is the word of God:[/center]
       --- End Quote ---
       --- Quote ---
       > [center]Matthew 26:51-52
       >
       > King James Version (KJV)
       >
       > 51 And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched
       out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the
       high priest's, and smote off his ear.
       >
       > 52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his
       place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the
       sword.[/center]
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       Colin,
       Ephesians 6:17 tells us to take up the sword of the Spirit--the
       Word of God--as part of our armor.  But Jesus said if we live by
       the sword, we will die by the sword.  Jesus said this after
       Peter cut off a man's ear.  Peter cut it off; Jesus touched him
       (healed him)
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       > The Lord didn't say we could not use the sword, just not live
       by it.
       --- End Quote ---
       What is the difference between using the sword and living by the
       sword?
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