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       #Post#: 83--------------------------------------------------
       Feed My Sheep
       By: colin Date: November 24, 2012, 8:51 am
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       Three times the Lord asked Peter, do you love me Peter and
       every time Peter said yes and then Jesus said , Feed My Sheep.
       I've been asked why I have to teach or why I must correct people
       several times and there is the answer. What is it that peter
       knew that would feed the flock of Jesus that they didn't. right
       from the time when Jesus asked who do they say he was, it was
       Peter that got it right when he said you are the son of the
       living God. Why Peter and if the Lord teaches everyone , why
       then ask Peter to feed his sheep. What Peter received from the
       Lord was from the Father above. God is Spirit and flesh and
       blood cannot teach you Spirit. There it is with the Spiritual
       teaching, the rest is past. You cannot dwell on the past and
       what has happened in your life when you come to the Lord and it
       is the same way with the Spirit. You cannot dwell on the flesh
       once you've been touched by the Spirit. Remember me Lord when
       you come into your kingdom. Thy kingdom come. Do not think on
       the Lord as one dead and forgotten but remember him as one alive
       and risen and you will also be as one remembered and known by
       the Lord, alive. God is the God of the living.
       I have fallen far from the Lord because of my impacence and
       want for some glory of my own but the teaching I have are not
       mine, they are the Lords and FLESH AND BLOOD HAS NOT TAUGHT ME .
       I'm happy to be hear with this theology he has given me and hope
       we can all remember the Lord as risen together. There is only
       one thing I can say right now. I love the Lord. I love him with
       all my heart and all my soul and nothing in this world compared
       to him.
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       Re: Feed My Sheep
       By: Amadeus Date: November 24, 2012, 9:17 am
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       [font=courier]Thank you for sharing both the Word and that heart
       warming testimony with us Colin!
       "I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my
       help.
       My help cometh from the LORD, which made heaven and earth."
       Psalm 121:1-2[/font]
       #Post#: 88--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Feed My Sheep
       By: Raina Date: November 25, 2012, 8:44 pm
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       [font=trebuchet ms]Colin,
       It was never that I meant not for you to teach, but that I know
       sometimes its a burden more than a joy.  I just hate to see you
       get sad and frustrated.
       Please also consider:
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       [quote][center][font=georgia]1 John 2:24-29
       King James Version (KJV)
       24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the
       beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall
       remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the
       Father.
       25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even
       eternal life.
       26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that
       seduce you.
       27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in
       you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same
       anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no
       lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
       28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall
       appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at
       his coming.
       29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that
       doeth righteousness is born of him.[/font][/center][/quote]
       [font=trebuchet ms]This seems to say that once given the Spirit,
       we need not that man teach us, but that the Spirit can take over
       as we abide in Him.  Of course we may help one another, but
       abiding in Christ is the main thing.  This was also written, it
       seems, to prevent Jesus' followers from falling into error by
       the "seduction" of men not of the Spirit and not abiding in Him.
       It was an assurance of keeping your faith pure by abiding in
       what you heard from the beginning, assuming, that is, that Truth
       is what you did, in fact, hear at the beginning.
       This was written by John, often thought to be the most spiritual
       of the Gospel-writers.  The disciple Jesus loved.
       I've found this verse a personal comfort after learning of the
       confusion of things being taught in this faith.  It's become a
       matter of trusting the Spirit to help me sort it all out instead
       of listening to the conflicting teachings of many different men.
       It also goes along with this, from Sirach:
       [quote][center][size=14pt][font=georgia]Sirach 2:17-18
       17: They that fear the Lord will prepare their hearts, and
       humble their souls in his sight,
       18: Saying, We will fall into the hands of the Lord, and not
       into the hands of men: for as his majesty is, so is his mercy.
       [/font][/center][/quote]
       [font=trebuchet ms]I do believe you when you say that flesh and
       blood has not taught you.  Your teachings are quite unique and
       you know I always ponder them and have learned many things from
       you.
       So . . . I'm glad you're here posting, for sure.  I've no doubt
       you love the Lord and that what you do you are doing for Him.
       I've missed you much. [/font]
       #Post#: 90--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Feed My Sheep
       By: colin Date: November 25, 2012, 11:01 pm
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       I do not have a problem seeing that you and a few others
       are now coming into spiritual sight. It makes me happy and my
       hope is that this forum, this one right here, and the few of us
       here, I hope we can all overcome together and not just on this
       part called spiritual interpretation , the whole thing. I see
       you and John and now patrick too moving in the Spirit. There are
       a few back on the other forum too but not many. Did you catch
       that where i was saying we have to stop dwelling on the past,
       that part that was flesh. I can't go back there and have to give
       the spirit 100 percent. I know this, we have to move where Jesus
       moves and raise with him and this is my purpose. This is what
       the Lord has given me to do and you all can say what you like
       but this is also what the Lord told me I will do, I must do. Let
       us all move forward together now, out of this bondage of sin and
       show the world just what is was Jesus was all about, his
       teachings, his life. Not about walking on water and men catching
       a lot of fish. Its about the building of the church in
       righteousness and the true members being like he was and is. Its
       about opening peoples eyes to the things of God and coming out
       of that great whore Babylon. I understand now why bondage is
       nesessary to combat evil but I think this is the time when his
       church should be raised and there should be an end to the lies
       and deceit, the mark of that beast removed from good people. Our
       robes should be washed now and we can present ourselves to him
       so he can hand over the kingdom to his father. Thats where we
       should be now. I can't stand to hear the foolishness anymore, I
       hate it now.
       This will sound wrong to all of you but this is what I
       think. People talk about how much you have to go threw to join
       some forums but I think for us, we should make it a 100 times
       harder. If people don't believe what the Spiritual teachings
       say, if it was my decision I would say they are not worthy or
       elegable to join. How about that. I think we should be like the
       disciples and move into the upper room and shut the doors and
       call and waite upon the Lord to show us what to do next. I know
       he will. People want a million people on their forums when we
       only need a dozen, after that people get converted.
       #Post#: 93--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Feed My Sheep
       By: alphaomega Date: November 27, 2012, 4:41 pm
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       HI YA "colin"
       let this be "my" real welcome to you in comeing to "MY"  forum
       M FORUM ? ; YES IT IS
       i think you will find what you and some others have been missing
       in the other forum
       THUS ; it is my great pleasure to CO-EXIST  with NANCY'S praise
       forum ;
       for it frees this forum from te general conversation
       AS WELL as it frees her forum from a place of debate
       [quote author=colin link=topic=41.msg90#msg90 date=1353906081]
       I do not have a problem seeing that you and a few others
       are now coming into spiritual sight. It makes me happy and my
       hope is that this forum, this one right here, and the few of us
       here, I hope we can all overcome together and not just on this
       part called spiritual interpretation , the whole thing. I see
       you and John and now patrick too moving in the Spirit.
       the small group on this forum will have questions put to them ;
       and will only serve its true purpose if ;
       questions are asked back and
       comments are made and opinions are shared
       There are a few back on the other forum too but not many. Did
       you catch that where i was saying we have to stop dwelling on
       the past, that part that was flesh. I can't go back there and
       have to give the spirit 100 percent. I know this, we have to
       move where Jesus moves and raise with him and this is my
       purpose.
       this forum is no way represents are-forming of any other forum ;
       and in fact ; it is being formed solely as a sounding board ;
       for my-self { and any others } to bring out a deeper look into
       the issues of the bible ; mankinds story; ad the gospel story
       This is what the Lord has given me to do and you all can say
       what you like but this is also what the Lord told me I will do,
       I must do.
       anything can be said on this forum ;
       but the purpose of this forum is to "test" all that is said
       let us take "it all apart" and see if we cant both share and
       improve upon what we have been given by god
       Let us all move forward together now, out of this bondage of
       sin and show the world just what is was Jesus was all about, his
       teachings, his life.
       you will find a theme of this forum will be to show ;
       it more than just the life of jesus { that is one of four
       aspects to the purpose of jesus coming here to earth }
       his life will be given "equal time" to his birth; death; and
       promise to return
       Not about walking on water and men catching a lot of fish. Its
       about the building of the church in righteousness and the true
       members being like he was and is.
       it is about .................................IS IT ? ; that is
       what this forum seeks to explore
       not saying you are right or wrong ; but saying this forum needs
       a better foundation of statements {in time}
       or should have ;
       Its about opening peoples eyes to the things of God and coming
       out of that great **** Babylon. I understand now why bondage is
       nesessary to combat evil but I think this is the time when his
       church should be raised and there should be an end to the lies
       and deceit, the mark of that beast removed from good people. Our
       robes should be washed now and we can present ourselves to him
       so he can hand over the kingdom to his father. Thats where we
       should be now.
       again; {in time} we need a better foundations for those
       statements
       lol; and i know you can do this this ;
       DON'T HURRY ; TAKE YOUR TIME
       LET ALL WHO WISH BUILD AND EXPLORE THE STATEMENTS ; IN ORDER TO
       'REALLY KNOW" THE SUBJECT MATTER
       I can't stand to hear the foolishness anymore, I hate it now.
       YES; INDEED
       thank you ; couldn't have said it any better
       This will sound wrong to all of you but this is what I
       think. People talk about how much you have to go threw to join
       some forums but I think for us, we should make it a 100 times
       harder.
       lol; don't worry about that
       make no mistake ; THIS IS MY FORUM
       IT EXISTS FOR MY PLEASURE
       I HAVE A BAN BUTTON ; AND A CAT {with lightning quick paws} TO
       STOP THOSE WHOSE AGENDAS ARE NOT IN LINE WITH THIS FORUM
       If people don't believe what the Spiritual teachings say, if it
       was my decision I would say they are not worthy or elegable to
       join. How about that.
       TIME;will BRING ALL TO LIGHT; and then judgements can be made
       I think we should be like the disciples and move into the upper
       room and shut the doors and call and waite upon the Lord to show
       us what to do next. I know he will. People want a million people
       on their forums when we only need a dozen, after that people get
       converted.
       [/quote]
       THIS IS A "PERFECTING THE SAINTS" FORUM ----------------{ a
       study to improve knowledge of the gosple story}
       if some get converted along the way "GREAT"
       BUT THAT IS THE WORK OF THE HOLY SPIRIT ; and not mine
       don't let this scare you ;
       i feel this is the place where you can both share and improve
       your message
       and that is the purpose of this forum for each of us
       #Post#: 94--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Feed My Sheep
       By: alphaomega Date: November 27, 2012, 5:04 pm
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       [quote author=colin link=topic=41.msg83#msg83 date=1353768679]
       Three times the Lord asked Peter, do you love me Peter
       [/quote]
       that is the way it sounds in english
       but that not what is being said there
       the words to each time jesus says that is different
       the first time
       --------------do you love adore and worship me?
       the second time is
       -------------do you love me?
       the third time is
       -------------- do you even like me ?
       each time it hurt peter more and more ;
       this was a breaking peter down ; so he could * remember ; all
       that had happened
       is peter the leader of this group ?
       peter doesn't ever think so after this conversation
       peter now sees himself as one whom Jesus called to share ;
       THE WITNEESSED ACCOUNT OF THE LIFE OF JESUS
       what peter has to offer ; is not teaching
       it is this witnessed account of the one teacher ; one lord , one
       saviour
       [quote author=colin link=topic=41.msg83#msg83 date=1353768679]
       I've been asked why I have to teach or why I must correct
       people several times and there is the answer.
       i understand; BUT --- if we are to do this THEN we must work on
       our presentation of what GOD has shown us { thus; the forums
       playground}
       What is it that peter knew that would feed the flock of Jesus
       that they didn't. right from the time when Jesus asked who do
       they say he was, it was Peter that got it right when he said you
       are the son of the living God. Why Peter and if the Lord teaches
       everyone , why then ask Peter to feed his sheep. What Peter
       received from the Lord was from the Father above. God is Spirit
       and flesh and blood cannot teach you Spirit.
       open for debate ***
       flesh and spirit ; are they ever together ?
       the old man = body and soul
       the new man = soul and spirit ; and the flesh/body is nothing
       but a vehicle that is used in this world for transportation
       it ( the body) will never be eternal
       There it is with the Spiritual teaching, the rest is past. You
       cannot dwell on the past and what has happened in your life when
       you come to the Lord and it is the same way with the Spirit. You
       cannot dwell on the flesh once you've been touched by the
       Spirit. Remember me Lord when you come into your kingdom. Thy
       kingdom come. Do not think on the Lord as one dead and forgotten
       but remember him as one alive and risen and you will also be as
       one remembered and known by the Lord, alive. God is the God of
       the living.
       yes ; but i want more foundation
       I have fallen far from the Lord because of my impacence and
       want for some glory of my own but the teaching I have are not
       mine, they are the Lords and FLESH AND BLOOD HAS NOT TAUGHT ME .
       I'm happy to be hear with this theology he has given me and hope
       we can all remember the Lord as risen together. There is only
       one thing I can say right now. I love the Lord. I love him with
       all my heart and all my soul and nothing in this world compared
       to him.
       [/quote]
       of coarse ; the flesh wants
       but knowing this ; can't we also see those wants have nothing to
       do with the spirit ?
       plato says ;
       in seeking truth ; there is no winner in the debate
       we seek not to win ; but to find the truth
       thus; the testing of what we believe to be true ;
       for if it is true ; it will stand the test
       if it cracks somewhat ;
       then we can look to see the actual truth better
       looking forward to exploring more
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       Re: Feed My Sheep
       By: colin Date: November 27, 2012, 9:52 pm
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       John, my fried, I've been angry at others and even myself
       for a while now. I'm over it. I withdrew myself for a while but
       now I feel the Lord moving in me and have that need to do the
       will of God. I missed you brother.
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       Re: Feed My Sheep
       By: Amadeus Date: November 28, 2012, 6:31 pm
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       [quote]John, my friend, I've been angry at others and even
       myself for a while now. I'm over it. I withdrew myself for a
       while but now I feel the Lord moving in me and have that need to
       do the will of God. I missed you brother.[/quote]
       [font=courier]You were also missed, my friend!
       I understand very well about the pressure on us at times, which
       makes us want to draw back. I also understand how frustrating it
       seems when so many people either do not care or completely
       misunderstand what is meant.
       Just remember what Jesus said here:
       "Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what
       they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots." Luke 23:34
       They did not know and did not understand what they were doing.
       Some of those, who are seemingly uncaring or even cruelly
       callous and abrasive with regard to what we say, are likely
       among some of those, who "know not what they do". We must do as
       Jesus did and ask our Father to forgive them.
       And then again:
       "And we know that all things   work together for good to them
       that love God, to them who are the called according to his
       purpose." Rom 8:28[/font]
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