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       Re: Obituaries 
       By: Lyn Date: April 26, 2023, 4:21 am
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       Yes I remember that well too.  We used to sing that as kids.
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       Re: Obituaries 
       By: Leslie Date: May 2, 2023, 5:16 am
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       Gordon Lightfoot is dead aged 84. He was a Canadian folk singer.
       R.I.P.
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       Re: Obituaries 
       By: Lyn Date: May 2, 2023, 7:31 am
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       Yes I remember him well.  Someone of my acquaintance posted
       about it four times on FB!  I said, "We got it the first time",
       and wished I hadn't.  He was excellent.
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       Re: Obituaries 
       By: Gregory Date: May 3, 2023, 2:55 am
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       From The Telegraph (copied as paywall would prevent some from
       seeing the article):
       "Monty Python star and TV presenter Michael Palin's wife of 57
       years, Helen, has died at the age of 80. The actor, 79, shared
       the news of her death on his website. He wrote: "My dearest wife
       Helen died peacefully in the early hours of Tuesday morning. She
       had been suffering with chronic pain for several years, which
       was compounded a few years ago by a diagnosis of kidney failure.
       We first met on a summer holiday on the Suffolk coast when we
       were both 16 and we married in our early 20s. Two and a half
       weeks ago we celebrated our 57th wedding anniversary. Her death
       is an indescribable loss for myself, our three children and four
       grandchildren. Helen was the bedrock of my life. Her quietly
       wise judgement informed all my decisions and her humour and
       practical good sense was was at the heart of our life together."
       "
       So sad when one of the partners dies after decades of marriage.
       I wrote this in the comments section of the article:
       "I recall reading an article some years ago by someone who had
       also lost his beloved wife after decades of marriage. I was
       struck by his use of the phrase 'the empty room'; ie. the total
       absence of the loved one, the unaccustomed silence, the haunting
       memories no longer shared, waking alone after dreaming of happy
       times together. Heartbreaking..."
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       Re: Obituaries 
       By: Lyn Date: May 3, 2023, 3:47 am
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       Very sad indeed, I empathise with Michael Palin at this time
       poor soul.
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       Re: Obituaries 
       By: Beverly Date: May 3, 2023, 8:09 am
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       [quote author=Leslie link=topic=58.msg4781#msg4781
       date=1683022579]
       Gordon Lightfoot is dead aged 84. He was a Canadian folk singer.
       R.I.P.
       [/quote]
       I hadn't heard of his death. I liked him as a teen.
       [quote author=Gregory link=topic=58.msg4799#msg4799
       date=1683100551]
       From The Telegraph (copied as paywall would prevent some from
       seeing the article):
       "Monty Python star and TV presenter Michael Palin's wife of 57
       years, Helen, has died at the age of 80. The actor, 79, shared
       the news of her death on his website. He wrote: "My dearest wife
       Helen died peacefully in the early hours of Tuesday morning. She
       had been suffering with chronic pain for several years, which
       was compounded a few years ago by a diagnosis of kidney failure.
       We first met on a summer holiday on the Suffolk coast when we
       were both 16 and we married in our early 20s. Two and a half
       weeks ago we celebrated our 57th wedding anniversary. Her death
       is an indescribable loss for myself, our three children and four
       grandchildren. Helen was the bedrock of my life. Her quietly
       wise judgement informed all my decisions and her humour and
       practical good sense was was at the heart of our life together."
       "
       So sad when one of the partners dies after decades of marriage.
       I wrote this in the comments section of the article:
       "I recall reading an article some years ago by someone who had
       also lost his beloved wife after decades of marriage. I was
       struck by his use of the phrase 'the empty room'; ie. the total
       absence of the loved one, the unaccustomed silence, the haunting
       memories no longer shared, waking alone after dreaming of happy
       times together. Heartbreaking..."
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       [/quote]
       This is so sad.
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       Re: Obituaries 
       By: Gregory Date: May 20, 2023, 3:20 pm
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       Just read that Martin Amis has died of esophageal cancer at the
       age of 73. On checking, I see that his father, Kingsley, died at
       the same age, but following a stroke. I've never read any of his
       novels.
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       Re: Obituaries 
       By: Lyn Date: May 20, 2023, 5:01 pm
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       Neither have I. It's surprising in a way that neither of us have
       considering he started writing novels when we were in our
       twenties.  I used to devour the books section in the Sunday
       paper and can't say Martin Amis's books ever appealed to me,
       However 'Dead Babies' ('Mood Swingers' in the USA, far better
       title, less brutal), was made into a film which I might watch if
       it comes on TV.  It was well cast with many recognisable young
       actors, who are now not so young :).
       Martin Amis's later, non fiction, work seems interesting.
       Oesophageal cancer is a particularly aggressive cancer, I hope
       he died peacefully, poor soul.
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       Re: Obituaries 
       By: Gregory Date: May 21, 2023, 3:14 am
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       [quote author=Lyn link=topic=58.msg5451#msg5451 date=1684620089]
       Martin Amis's later, non fiction, work seems interesting.
       Oesophageal cancer is a particularly aggressive cancer, I hope
       he died peacefully, poor soul.
       [/quote]
       On the first point, his last book does sound interesting. It's
       what he called 'a novelised autobiography' ("86% true" in an
       interview) and amongst other matters, looks at three of the most
       important people in his life, the poet (and best friend of his
       father) Philip Larkin, his favourite American novelist, Saul
       Bellow (mine too, with John Updike) and his closest friend
       Christopher Hitchens, who by a sad coincidence also died of the
       same cancer. Hitchens attributed that to heavy smoking and
       drinking. Amis doesn't seem to have been a heavy drinker by his
       own account but in various photos accompanying his obituary in
       The Telegraph, he's clearly smoking. (During an interview he
       described his father, Kingsley, as a heavy drinker - "by the end
       of his life he was putting away a bottle of Macallan single malt
       a day, before moving on to gin and Campari.")
       As for the second point (the cancer), in a 2020 interview
       accompanying the obit (when he was 70), he said: "The writer VS
       Pritchett once wrote that, after 70, you don’t really think
       about anything else but dying. ‘I don’t find that and I
       certainly have no metaphysical fear of death. But the
       onerousness of dying, the sweat of death… it is an arduous
       business. And I’m very afraid of my life becoming medicalised.’"
       I do hope he didn't suffer too much in the end. It's a dreadful
       cancer (just the thought of not being able to swallow fills me
       with dread.) I also agree with his comment about 'the
       onerousness of dying'. I just hope my own end is quick, and
       preferably painless.
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       Re: Obituaries 
       By: Lyn Date: May 21, 2023, 11:21 am
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       Yes.
       People aren't generally preoccupied with death once they are
       seventy, at least not most people.  It depends what their life
       is like and how they feel.
       I had many periods of dwelling on death when I was younger, now
       I don't care though, like you, hope it isn't too bad when it
       comes.
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