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       Re: Jehovah's Witnesses
       By: Beverly Date: February 25, 2023, 11:14 am
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       [quote author=Val link=topic=54.msg1660#msg1660 date=1677326566]
       I asked about myself and it's the same story according to JW it
       will depend on myself and God as we're the only ones who know my
       heart.
       [/quote]
       So, my cousin can be a good JW and still believe what he said to
       me. Nice
       Although not a JW, I love (have loved) some who according to
       Christian interpretations of the Bible can never be in heaven.
       Because of my love for them and being loved by them, I have
       never been able to accept that the loving God that I so believe
       in and rely upon in this mortal life would allow an eternal Hell
       for them. If I am deceived, then I am happily deceived. It makes
       this life (and my faith) bearable for me.
       #Post#: 1689--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jehovah's Witnesses
       By: Gregory Date: February 25, 2023, 1:14 pm
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       On the question of them going to hell, I don't believe that for
       a moment, nor do I believe in hell anyway. I believe God will
       give everyone another opportunity after death, especially given
       the limitations of our individual lives, often so conditioned by
       our tiny portion of the world and experience of life. God is
       just and it would be totally unjust to condemn people on the
       strength of having, as it were, only had the opportunity to look
       through a glass darkly in the small shadowy corners of our
       temporal existence, still less for having opted in their search
       for truth and meaning* for false religious panaceas such as the
       JW's. God's capacity for forgiveness, love and acceptance is
       immensely wider than our own crabby little versions.
       * “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find;
       knock and the door will be opened to you." - Matthew 7:7
       "Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my
       voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that
       person, and they with me." - Revelation 3.20
       (I had a dream when I was a small child that Jesus came to our
       house and ate with us. I've never forgotten it.)
       #Post#: 1690--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jehovah's Witnesses
       By: Beverly Date: February 25, 2023, 1:20 pm
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       [quote author=Gregory link=topic=54.msg1689#msg1689
       date=1677352477]
       God's capacity for forgiveness, love and acceptance is immensely
       wider than our own crabby little versions.
       (I had a dream when I was a small child that Jesus came to our
       house and ate with us. I've never forgotten it.)
       [/quote]
       If these were texts, I would reply with a heart after each one.
       #Post#: 5344--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jehovah's Witnesses
       By: Lyn Date: May 17, 2023, 3:20 pm
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       I thought of this thread last night whilst watching this:
  HTML https://www.channel4.com/programmes/rebekah-vardy-jehovahs-witnesses-and-me
       It was an interesting eye opener.
       #Post#: 6884--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jehovah's Witnesses
       By: Val Date: July 11, 2023, 2:48 pm
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       I saw that programme a good while back, but I think her view on
       JW's is very blighted because of her very very troubled
       upbringing, I have been involved with the JW's for over 40 years
       as I am married to one any one of my children is a baptised
       witness and my two grandchildren will most likely be brought up
       in that religion.
       My daughter and myself are not witnesses and I never will become
       one, but that hasn't affected our relationship in any way in all
       those years.
       IMO JW's is no different to many of the other organised male
       oriented religions, these seem to be ideal hiding places for
       pedophiles and other scumbag abusers, and of course the church
       leaders being spineless are afraid of blame and cover up for
       them.
       But that's just my opinion
       
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       Re: Jehovah's Witnesses
       By: Gregory Date: July 12, 2023, 4:01 am
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       It's more than an opinion, Val - it's the way things are.
       In any event, the JW organisation is heading for its last legs.
       All its prophetic date-settings for the end of the world have
       come and gone (and their central core message has always been
       about the end) and on checking, their membership numbers are now
       pretty static, just over 8 million worldwide in a global
       population of 8 billion (ie. less than 1%.) Their long-standing
       members will probably remain loyal, largely out of habit and
       friendships, but it will gradually fade away into irrelevance
       with the years.
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