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       #Post#: 4499--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Lyn
       Date: April 28, 2023, 10:48 am
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       That is a moan, Leslie, a strong one.  People here moan in the
       same way about our current government and, previously,
       particularly about Boris Johnson (including those who voted for
       him).  They moan that the country has been ruined.  It's all
       happened before and we've recovered - until it happens again.
       When Trudeau is replaced, after a short honeymoon period, you
       will hear moans about his replacement :-).
       Politics is an unpleasant business.
       However all of us on here are a lot better off than in many
       countries.  Not that that helps much but it's worth noting.
       #Post#: 4508--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Leslie
       Date: April 28, 2023, 11:52 am
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       --- Quote from: Leslie link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Lyn link=topic=45.msg4490#msg4490
       date=1682684538]
       > People will moan about prime ministers and presidents (and
       other government members), regardless of which political party
       they are from.  I've never known one in this country who hasn't
       garnered complaints and doubt it is any different in other
       countries.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This is serious. I am not moaning. Trudeau has ruined this
       country .
       [/quote]
       I simply repeat what I wrote. You have no idea what Trudeau is
       doing to this country.
       #Post#: 4524--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Lyn
       Date: April 28, 2023, 1:35 pm
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       He knows his days are numbered, Leslie, never fear.
       #Post#: 4543--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Leslie
       Date: April 29, 2023, 7:56 am
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       According to our CTV news station Canadians are not exactly
       thrilled to have a king ruling over them. You can tell the left
       wing bias of the poll taken by the enthusiasm with which the
       reporters announce the results.
       I take the poll with a grain of salt, as with all that CTV or
       CBC, of Global TV broadcast. You will have difficulty finding a
       reporter who supports the monarchy, or is opposed to abortion,
       MAID, or euthanasia,.The majority I fear support the Liberals.
       #Post#: 4544--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Lyn
       Date: April 29, 2023, 8:17 am
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       It's not surprising that many Canadians don't want the King of
       England to be their titular head of state.  There are people
       here who don't want that!  You don't have to be left wing to be
       of that opinion.
       The royals go up and down in popularity and, let's face it, QEll
       is a tough act to follow.  We still have to wait and see how
       King Charles shapes up, he hasn't actually done that much so far
       though he was a very committed and active prince of Wales.
       I seem to remember that you weren't all that keen on them at one
       time, Leslie.
       As for me, I don't care that much but am happy to have the royal
       firm around for the time being.  I like history and from that
       point of view I find the royals interesting, even fascinating.
       Some of them I admire whereas to others I'm indifferent.
       This time next week I will watch the coronation on TV, I want to
       see who is there and what sort of a time everyone is having. I
       hope it isn't boring. I remember watching Queen Elizabeth ll's
       coronation on our little TV when I was three and a half so don't
       want to miss this one.  I very much doubt I'll be around for the
       next.
       #Post#: 4545--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Leslie
       Date: April 29, 2023, 8:39 am
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       Whether I approve or not of having a king. It would be a
       lawyer's nightmare and a legal catastrophe to become a republic
       to abolish royalty in Canada.  Note . One's opinions do change
       over a long lifetime.
       #Post#: 4547--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Lyn
       Date: April 29, 2023, 8:47 am
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       Yes they certainly do, Leslie.
       The late Queen loved Canada and the Canadians.
       #Post#: 4549--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Beverly
       Date: April 29, 2023, 8:54 am
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       Giving an American perspective, I agree with you Lyn that views
       on having a monarch as a titular head of state wouldn't
       necessarily be a party divider. From what I can tell, it's those
       in Parliament who are affecting people's lives the most (similar
       to how Congress's laws do here.)
       #Post#: 4555--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Leslie
       Date: April 29, 2023, 10:28 am
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       I don't think that a divorced King should be head of the Church
       of England.
       King Henry V111 started it when he divorced and murdered his
       wife,breaking up the Catholic Church in England and calling and
       punishing all who disagreed as traitors.
       That King followed by Queen Elizabeth 1 led to the troubles, in
       Ireland. Of course I know that Oliver Cromwell , was responsible
       for that, but ask yourself would Oliver Cromwell have existed or
       had the same puritan views if Henry V111 had remained Roman
       Catholic?
       #Post#: 4559--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Lyn
       Date: April 29, 2023, 10:47 am
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       You've said it, Leslie, the Anglican church was started by a
       divorcee.
       There was a time when Charles would not have been able to
       divorce without renouncing the throne.  Those days are over.
       There are plenty of divorced people who are devout Christians.
       The Church has to meet people where they are now and not take
       against them because of what happened in the past. The CofE
       generally does that these days and it is what Jesus did.
       It doesn't affect you, Leslie, because you are not an Anglican.
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