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       #Post#: 6115--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Gregory
       Date: June 10, 2023, 5:20 am
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       You've got the wrong end of the stick, Leslie. I was simply
       responding to Lyn's post to clarify certain matters in relation
       to that and do I know what mainly causes forest fires, thanks
       very much. Have you considered the rest of my post and
       contemplated a response, such as whether fires should go on the
       Our Weather thread and the nature of news reporting? Probably
       not. (Have you even read all my post and thought about it?)
       #Post#: 6116--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Leslie
       Date: June 10, 2023, 5:34 am
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       Of course I have and I think you confuse Cause and Effect
       here.The cause of bad weather is the forest fires, and the
       Weather is the Effect of that Cause, namely cloudy skies, smog
       and 'particulants' circulating in the atmosphere.
       #Post#: 6118--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Gregory
       Date: June 10, 2023, 7:14 am
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       I'm not confusing anything, Leslie, and I've discussed cause and
       effect in this case at reasonable length. Also, there are other
       aspects in my post (eg. the content of the Our Weather thread,
       etc.) which you've ignored. I suspect that you haven't really
       seriously considered some of the things I've said which might be
       worthy of a response, surely the responsibility of each of us.
       As for your last post, it's evident that it's you that is
       totally confused. You're talking about some bad weather as a
       result of forest fires when what we've been discussing all along
       is vice versa, the kind of weather which can result in forest
       fires. We're clearly not on the same page...
       #Post#: 6119--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Leslie
       Date: June 10, 2023, 7:48 am
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       This trivial discussion centered around what Our Weather thread
       was supposed to contain and your position is that it should not
       contain Forest Fires . I think it should contain Forest Fires
       and details of Forest Fires, and the smog, and damage to humans
       etc that forest fires cause. Smog being the effect and forest
       fires being the cause. The cause of forest fires includes
       lightning due to rain and those started by humans. Greg says the
       weather is the cause of forest fires. From that view point, what
       then is the cause of the weather that produces forest fires? And
       when you find it, what will be the cause of that? How far back
       in Cause and Effect do you want to go? To the Supreme Cause of
       all things?
       So far we have -starting at the very top God, A Cause, and
       Effect, followed by another Cause and Effect, and so on ad
       infinitum.
       #Post#: 6123--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Gregory
       Date: June 10, 2023, 8:41 am
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       Oh dear, we seem to have strayed into irrelevant philosophical
       territory and no idea what kind of weather Thomas Aquinas
       experienced in southern Italy in the thirteenth century,
       although he may have attributed it to some local first cause,
       like lowering thunder clouds.
       #Post#: 6124--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Lyn
       Date: June 10, 2023, 9:24 am
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       In Thomas Aquinas's time, Southern Italy was more humid and cool
       than now and the presently arid south saw more precipitation.
       #Post#: 6231--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Leslie
       Date: June 13, 2023, 11:14 am
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       Advance Voting Day yesterday and today, and you can go to any
       open polling station, if you can find one. We were given two for
       Advanced poll only and the closest one was the Richview Library,
       our local library. The parking lot was practically full and I
       had to walk over 100 yards, with my walking stick, dodging cars
       to get in. Once there I found the library busy and we had to
       walk to the far end, down two flights of steps to another
       library section, then to cross the children's section to a door
       guarded by a Pathan tribesman from the Khyber Pass. Inside , few
       spoke English and I was asked twice in less than a minute to
       show ID. I said to the last person , 'I have just shown ID ' she
       could see that. Then an old lady beat me in a race to the place
       where you voted. I waited, then a space was vacant and I took
       it. The lady who raced me to the next station was still there.
       There were about 100 contestants for Mayor of Toronto, and I
       guess she didn't know who to vote for. I voted number 84 on the
       list, Mark Saunders the black ex police chief for law and order
       .If elected Mayor of Toronto he will stop expansion of bike
       lanes on Bloor street West, west of Royal York opposite my
       Catholic Church, Our Lady of Sorrows. Bike lanes are only used
       four months a year, yet they block car traffic to two lanes from
       four lanes, and bike lanes are permanently constructed.
       Ms Chow is the leader for Mayor in the polls, Mike Saunders is
       second. Heaven help us if Chow is elected. She can't speak
       English properly, she will raise taxes, and increase bike lanes,
       plus more 'safe' spaces for drug 'addicts' to inject, plus more
       2SLGBT+ flags and parades.
       And so I am glad I voted  ;D
       #Post#: 6232--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Lyn
       Date: June 13, 2023, 2:55 pm
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       Here is Ms Chow in discussion on CBC; her English is fine, she
       is easily understandable and that is coming from someone who
       does speak very good English.  I wonder who told you she
       doesn't.
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       #Post#: 6242--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Leslie
       Date: June 13, 2023, 6:04 pm
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       She only spoke one sentence that you heard, not enough. I ask ,
       who paid for the polls showing Chow to be in the lead from the
       very beginning? Let me guess: the big unions of course.
       Her NDP policies I already mentioned. Her tax increases and
       appeals for help to Ford and Trudeau for funds is next on the
       agenda. What I worry about is the property tax increases. Chow
       will throw money around like Trudeau does. She will destroy
       Toronto by introducing Vancouver type drug policies which led to
       the destruction of down town East side, Vancouver.
       Researchers with Cardus issued a report last month showing that
       1.65 billion in infrastructure construction in Toronto is
       subject to closed tendering, which means only certain unionized
       companies can bid. The National Post says that the city of
       Hamilton ended its closed tendering regime by limiting bids to
       unionized shops it was overpaying for construction by around
       27%. It has been suggested that this years Toronto's taxpayers
       (property tax) are overpaying for construction by around $350
       million.
       I have had some experience with unions, both good and bad.
       #Post#: 6244--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Lyn
       Date: June 14, 2023, 12:42 am
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       Ms Chow spoke two sentences, the second one longer than the
       first.  Her english is perfectly understandable, whatever else
       you may have against her (and I have not researched her fully so
       don't know much about her), to say she cannot speak English
       properly is ridiculous.  Many native English speakers are almost
       incomprehensible at times.
       I would still like to know who told you the woman couldn't speak
       English properly, or where you read it, Leslie.
       Other than that, from quick scan of your above post, I am glad
       of your good and bad experiences, you know your onions!
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