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       #Post#: 6085--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Gregory
       Date: June 9, 2023, 9:31 am
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       --- Quote from: Leslie link ---
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       > I did mention it under "Weather" *Greg.
       > * that should read "Our Weather".
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       I hardly ever look at that thread as I regard it as boring. I've
       looked at your post there now.
       #Post#: 6086--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Leslie
       Date: June 9, 2023, 9:34 am
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       Yesterday, while waiting for the bus to take us to the theatre I
       spoke to a man who said he was a Civil Engineer, when I had
       asked him if he was a teacher,. He was from Devon and was too
       young for National Service. He did say the UK should not have
       left the EU. I did not reply to that as I don't agree. His name
       was Ed and he was the first Englishman originally I have met for
       ages.
       #Post#: 6087--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Leslie
       Date: June 9, 2023, 9:36 am
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       --- Quote from: Gregory link ---
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       > [quote author=Leslie link=topic=45.msg6083#msg6083
       date=1686318971]
       > I did mention it under "Weather" *Greg.
       > * that should read "Our Weather".
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I hardly ever look at that thread as I regard it as boring. I've
       looked at your post there now.
       [/quote]
       Do try Greg, I will try to make life in 'the colonies'
       interesting in future. ;D
       #Post#: 6091--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Gregory
       Date: June 9, 2023, 10:08 am
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       --- Quote from: Leslie link ---
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       > [quote author=Gregory link=topic=45.msg6085#msg6085
       date=1686321113]
       > [quote author=Leslie link=topic=45.msg6083#msg6083
       date=1686318971]
       > I did mention it under "Weather" *Greg.
       > * that should read "Our Weather".
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I hardly ever look at that thread as I regard it as boring. I've
       looked at your post there now.
       [/quote]
       Do try Greg, I will try to make life in 'the colonies'
       interesting in future. ;D
       [/quote]
       Not a question of that. It's just a case of the degree of
       interest in what the weather is like in someone else's location.
       I don't know whether forest fires come under 'weather'.
       #Post#: 6092--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Leslie
       Date: June 9, 2023, 11:42 am
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       Under Weather comes the fires which have just broken out in
       British Columbia. I wonder if we will be next in Ontario?
       We have too many trees, thousands of hectares of them, doing
       nothing, just sitting there in all of Canada.
       Canada is unique. We have (with the Americans) the longest
       undefended border in the world, and we Canadians have most lakes
       and few deserts. On the Liabilities side of the national Balance
       Sheet we have Trudeau. But Canadians are fighting back on the
       2SLGBTQ front by resisting as they did Communism in Poland, even
       though politically overcome and ruled by it. When leaders attack
       the family to destroy it they always lose in the end.
       #Post#: 6094--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Gregory
       Date: June 9, 2023, 12:40 pm
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       --- Quote from: Leslie link ---
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       > Under Weather comes the fires which have just broken out in
       British Columbia.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I would suggest that most people would understand the title 'Our
       weather' as pertaining to weather conditions of the moment, such
       as rain, snow, cold, heat, etc., and that's what all the posts
       here and on previous forums have consisted of. Those forest
       fires may have been caused in part by excessive dry spells, but
       they are not 'weather' in themselves, any more than melting
       icecaps are.
       Still and all, let's just leave it there and hope the fires will
       be under control soon.
       #Post#: 6095--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Leslie
       Date: June 9, 2023, 1:33 pm
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       A woman in Glendon, Alberta has been arrested for setting a
       number of forest fires. There are other reports too of similar
       incidents. I think human activity is behind much of it? What
       else can it be. Lightning occurs during rain storms and Alberta
       has had little rain, so that cannot be the cause.
       #Post#: 6096--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Lyn
       Date: June 9, 2023, 10:38 pm
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       I too would have thought the fires in Canada came under the
       'weather' category:
  HTML https://www.newscientist.com/article/2377789-fire-weather-review-why-canadas-wildfires-will-only-get-worse/
  HTML https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jun/09/weather-tracker-canada-wildfires-rage-could-be-worst-season
       Leslie, it's not a very happy thought that someone may have
       deliberately started fires, accidentally yes, yet the woman you
       mentioned has been arrested which indicates it is so:
  HTML https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/wildfire-investigation-arson-charges-alberta-1.6053436.
       Here's an article about the causes:
  HTML https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-did-the-wildfires-in-canada-start-cause-nova-scotia-quebec/#:~:text=In%20a%20normal%20season%2C%20half,other%20half%20are%20human%2Dcaused.<br
       />
       I particularly noted this bit (though the writers appear to have
       the maths wrong):  In a normal season, half of Canada's
       wildfires are started by lightning, but those fires account for
       more than 85% of wildfire destruction. The other half are
       human-caused.
       #Post#: 6103--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Gregory
       Date: June 10, 2023, 4:03 am
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       I don't want to create a storm in a teacup (  :D  ) or be overly
       pedantic but let's clarify matters here. Fires in themselves are
       not 'weather', which is a meteorological phenomenon. (I think
       the expression Fire Weather in your first link is an oxymoron.)
       The causes of such fires may well be due to certain weather
       conditions, of course, such as extreme dryness due to drought
       and lightning strikes igniting flames, but if the fires were
       started by human agency (ie. arsonists), they wouldn't come
       under 'weather'. In fact, your links connected with the former
       just appear as a book review in the first one and general news
       about weather in various places around the world in the second
       (ie. the common thread is the weather, not fires.)
       Newspaper reports may connect forest fires with weather
       conditions, as the examples quoted show, but my quibble is
       simply with putting them here in the forum under Our Weather,
       which has always been just about the weather conditions (rain,
       snow, cold, etc. etc.) where you live. If there were fires in
       your area, I suggest you'd probably mention them (if at all) in
       the Chat section, not Our Weather. That's all.
       Just to add that deliberately started fires are unfortunately a
       fairly common occurrence here, especially in summer, and it's
       pitiful to see on the news whole areas of forest, especially on
       hillsides (more visible), blackened by charred trees and which
       will take years to regenerate. I can't imagine what perverse
       satisfaction these twisted individuals get out of it. There are
       also many such fires caused by people carelessly tossing a
       lighted cigarette butt into the undergrowth and picnic fires not
       adequately snuffed out.
       #Post#: 6106--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canadian News
   DIR By: Leslie
       Date: June 10, 2023, 4:39 am
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       Well Greg, In thought you were going to drop the subject of
       Weather. Forest fires are one cause of bad weather, in fact the
       main cause.  Forest fires  cause harmful 'particulants' and smog
       to circulate  in the atmosphere. That is why I included news of
       forest fires under the Weather heading.
       As I look out of the TV room window this early morning I can see
       a quarter of the moon and some cumulus clouds, and there is
       light. Things are getting back to normal for this time of the
       year. And it is 5:36 am.
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