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       Re: We want our country back.
       By: gwinnie Date: August 8, 2024, 7:42 am
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       …found it
       “The real story of the news website accused of fuelling riots”
  HTML https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y38gjp4ygo
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       Re: We want our country back.
       By: Stephen Horsfall Date: August 8, 2024, 7:43 am
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       [quote author=Leslie link=topic=232.msg18110#msg18110
       date=1723032816]
       You don't now that they are ultra nationalistic, and not simply
       hooligans who think they can get away with it. You are just
       plugging in words to cover things you don't understand . You
       call it something and it sticks.
       Covering a lack of understanding by calling these hooligans
       other names is very common in England and to a lesser extent
       here in Canada. In my view hooligans do not understand or even
       care to understand the meaning of Right Wing or Left Wing.
       And we use words improperly as labels.
       [/quote]
       Coming from someone who has more or less admitted that he
       believes what he wants to believe, irrespective of established
       facts, this is a bit rich.
       #Post#: 18146--------------------------------------------------
       Re: We want our country back.
       By: gwinnie Date: August 8, 2024, 8:08 am
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       The anti-racism demonstrators came out in their thousands. Here
       is the report of Brighton’s demo.
  HTML https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2y01r1gk2o
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       Re: We want our c.ountry back.
       By: Leslie Date: August 8, 2024, 8:18 am
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       I thought they would as they were only hooligans who protested
       originally.. These were outnumbered by ordinary Brits who are
       not hooligans. Good for them.
       #Post#: 18148--------------------------------------------------
       Re: We want our country back.
       By: Lyn Date: August 8, 2024, 8:54 am
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       [quote author=Steve link=topic=232.msg18145#msg18145
       date=1723120984]
       [quote author=Leslie link=topic=232.msg18110#msg18110
       date=1723032816]
       You don't now that they are ultra nationalistic, and not simply
       hooligans who think they can get away with it. You are just
       plugging in words to cover things you don't understand . You
       call it something and it sticks.
       Covering a lack of understanding by calling these hooligans
       other names is very common in England and to a lesser extent
       here in Canada. In my view hooligans do not understand or even
       care to understand the meaning of Right Wing or Left Wing.
       And we use words improperly as labels.
       [/quote]
       Coming from someone who has more or less admitted that he
       believes what he wants to believe, irrespective of established
       facts, this is a bit rich.
       [/quote]
       Don't bother, Steve.  Nothing will change there.
       There are plenty of rioters and supporters on facebook at the
       moment, quite jubilant too.  They are also people entrenched in
       their views who do not listen to anyone who differs in opinion.
       It's good that so many people came out to peacefully protest
       against them.
       #Post#: 18151--------------------------------------------------
       Re: We want our country back.
       By: Leslie Date: August 8, 2024, 9:39 am
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       You are right for once!
       #Post#: 18152--------------------------------------------------
       Re: We want our country back.
       By: Gregory Date: August 8, 2024, 9:54 am
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       [quote author=Leslie link=topic=232.msg18151#msg18151
       date=1723127983]
       You are right for once!
       [/quote]
       How kind... ::)
       #Post#: 18157--------------------------------------------------
       Re: We want our  in  country back.
       By: Leslie Date: August 8, 2024, 11:39 am
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       The gloves are off. Lyn deserves it. So does Steve for a very
       acrimonious post to me. It  came out of the blue. You should all
       understand that there are two sides of opinion in most
       discussions.
       Everything I have written was an expression of my feelings and
       thoughts about a subject. And in this case, (hooligan) at least
       I was proved correct, the Right Wing, assumptions are just that.
       A media blitz to put names on things they don't understand as
       they have their own axe to grind.
       #Post#: 18158--------------------------------------------------
       Re: We want our country back.
       By: Lyn Date: August 8, 2024, 11:55 am
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       [quote author=Gregory link=topic=232.msg18152#msg18152
       date=1723128893]
       [quote author=Leslie link=topic=232.msg18151#msg18151
       date=1723127983]
       You are right for once!
       [/quote]
       How kind... ::)
       [/quote]
       There's a first for everything.
       #Post#: 18186--------------------------------------------------
       Re: We want our country back.
       By: Gregory Date: August 9, 2024, 5:14 am
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       Two headlines from today's Telegraph:
       1. "Counter-protesters should stay home to reduce strain on
       police", says minister.
       Is that really wise? I mean, isn't it going to encourage the
       racist protesters to come out in force again? Looks like a case
       of damned if you do, damned if you don't.
       2. "Jailed far-Right rioters could be released early."
       The explanation given is the problem of overcrowding, but
       releasing these thugs onto the street again hardly seems like a
       valid solution. If there are too many in prison, let them suffer
       for a while; they deserve it. Again, damned if you do...
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