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       Re: WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK!
       By: guest18 Date: August 5, 2024, 11:11 am
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       [quote author=Steve link=topic=232.msg18045#msg18045
       date=1722873434]
       [quote author=Blueroses link=topic=232.msg18043#msg18043
       date=1722872311]
       Unfortunately Lyn, a lot of the evil thugs  involved in the
       riots are being encouraged by this sort of post on social media
       sites. On the lunchtime news I did hear that the Government many
       try to bring charges against the Admin on the sites if they
       weren't removed.
       [/quote]
       Quite right to,, but I think they mean the likes of Facebook, X
       and TikTok, not little forums like this.
       [/quote]
       I got the impression it was any forum that allowed people to
       post these sort evil trash, better to be safe rather than sorry,
       imo.
       #Post#: 18048--------------------------------------------------
       Re: WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK!
       By: Val Date: August 5, 2024, 11:20 am
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       As Lyn posted, and so in Ireland we have some migrants of the
       economic kind but they will eventually be sent home, most of the
       migrants here are seeking full or part time work and want to pay
       their way, our emmigrants are doctors, laywers, teachers, public
       transport workers, shop assistants and so on all paying their
       taxes and contributing to our economy.
       The people yearning for a white christian culture! ....well we
       all know where that lead us to with Hitler and the Nazis.
       We must get rid of this old outdated rediculous idea of white
       christian supremacy, we need new blood
       #Post#: 18049--------------------------------------------------
       Re: WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK!
       By: Lyn Date: August 5, 2024, 11:26 am
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       We do,  Prejudice stems from fear, people are afraid of change
       and cling to the past, so often seeing it through rose-tinted
       spectacles.  On the whole I like the here and now and am pleased
       to be living in the UK.  Every country has its ups and downs at
       different times.
       #Post#: 18052--------------------------------------------------
       Re: WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK!
       By: Lyn Date: August 5, 2024, 12:09 pm
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       [quote author=Blueroses link=topic=232.msg18047#msg18047
       date=1722874266]
       [quote author=Steve link=topic=232.msg18045#msg18045
       date=1722873434]
       [quote author=Blueroses link=topic=232.msg18043#msg18043
       date=1722872311]
       Unfortunately Lyn, a lot of the evil thugs  involved in the
       riots are being encouraged by this sort of post on social media
       sites. On the lunchtime news I did hear that the Government many
       try to bring charges against the Admin on the sites if they
       weren't removed.
       [/quote]
       Quite right to,, but I think they mean the likes of Facebook, X
       and TikTok, not little forums like this.
       [/quote]
       I got the impression it was any forum that allowed people to
       post these sort evil trash, better to be safe rather than sorry,
       imo.
       [/quote]
       The press and police are hardly going to hunt for this forum,
       Blueroses, and nobody says anything actionable, even if
       sometimes we don't like, or agree with, what is said.
       #Post#: 18054--------------------------------------------------
       Re: WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK!
       By: gwinnie Date: August 5, 2024, 12:17 pm
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       [quote author=Leslie link=topic=232.msg17997#msg17997
       date=1722857894]
       Educational opportunities for the working class whites are
       limited, partly because all white working classdon't want it, or
       think they don't have the intelligence to absorb it. Only a few
       get out of that working class.
       Accent is another thing as parodied in the show My Fair Lady.
       Why don't the English teach their children to speak English?
       They don't. There is a lot of good among the working class shown
       by those who remember the Christian tradition. Unfortunately
       there are "Those  at the Bottom" (read the book) describing self
       indulgence to a scale never seen before the 1950's.
       [/quote]
       Children can access education from age 2! They can have 15 hours
       per week at nursery schools. School proper starts at 5. They
       stay in education til 18. You’d have to work hard to avoid
       education!
       I do think that in light of what I will call ‘fake facts’, there
       is an opportunity for schools to teach about how to find trusted
       sources. Even Wikipedia can be a bit dodgy so being able to
       navigate the internet for trusted sources is a whole new life
       skill.
       #Post#: 18058--------------------------------------------------
       Re: WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK!
       By: Lyn Date: August 5, 2024, 12:59 pm
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       gwinnie:
       Children can access education from age 2! They can have 15 hours
       per week at nursery schools. School proper starts at 5. They
       stay in education til 18. You’d have to work hard to avoid
       education!
       That's right and after leaving school there are many
       opportunities, not only to go on to higher education but for
       apprenticeships.  Things are really good at the moment for
       youngsters.
       I do think that in light of what I will call ‘fake facts’, there
       is an opportunity for schools to teach about how to find trusted
       sources. Even Wikipedia can be a bit dodgy so being able to
       navigate the internet for trusted sources is a whole new life
       skill.
       A good idea. Everything should be checked and double checked but
       a lot of stuff on the internet is obviously invented.
       #Post#: 18059--------------------------------------------------
       We want our country back!
       By: Leslie Date: August 5, 2024, 1:30 pm
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       White working class don't try to achieve any higher education.
       They quit school as soon as possible , get a job and boast about
       the high pay they are making compared to those who stayed on at
       school and become clerks or want to become higher paying
       accountants which takes time and in which opportunities are
       limited.
       In the family I have in England, none to my knowledge have been
       to university, nor do they show any interest .
       #Post#: 18061--------------------------------------------------
       Re: WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK!
       By: gwinnie Date: August 5, 2024, 1:40 pm
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       [quote author=Leslie link=topic=232.msg18059#msg18059
       date=1722882610]
       White working class don't try to achieve any higher education.
       They quit school as soon as possible , get a job and boast about
       the high pay they are making compared to those who stayed on at
       school and become clerks or want to become higher paying
       accountants which takes time and in which opportunities are
       limited.
       In the family I have in England, none to my knowledge have been
       to university, nor do they show any interest .
       [/quote]
       I appreciate you are speaking from experience of family,
       however, you can’t extrapolate to all. Angela Rayner is white
       working class. And she’’s not the best example. There is nothing
       wrong with not choosing higher education. Many a worthy life
       lived without attending uni.
       #Post#: 18062--------------------------------------------------
       Re: WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK!
       By: Lyn Date: August 5, 2024, 1:42 pm
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       I didn't want to post any more on this thread tonight but it has
       to be said that every child is now in some sort of education
       until they are eighteen. If university is not on the cards, and
       it is not for most, there are vocational training courses at
       local colleges, with day release for work experience, and
       apprenticeships which involve some study.  The idea is that the
       non-academic youngsters have the chance to gain a skill and some
       experience, making them employable. Many enjoy that and do very
       well.
       The days of kids having to leave school at 16 (previously 15
       and, before that, 14), and joining the factory assembly line are
       over, they have opportunities and receive an allowance.
       You have been misinformed.
       #Post#: 18063--------------------------------------------------
       We want our country back!
       By: Leslie Date: August 5, 2024, 1:58 pm
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       My brother left grammar school at 15, and before long was
       employed by ICI in Huddersfield, using log tables on the night
       and day shift to calculate things we have calculators for today.
       He was taught how to use logarithms at grammar school and never
       forgot it.
       My old friend ( who may be dead by now or in a home - I don't
       know) stayed on at school . He then because of his two extra
       years at school did national service on the RAF, not the Royal
       Signals at Catterick camp as I had to do because I left school
       at 16 years with my Northern University Board School
       certificate, he stayed on and had a much easier time.
       He never did get a BA. degree but became a head teacher,
       (principal). My BA was achieved in Canada and had nothing to do
       with my work, absolutely nothing. It is a 'General' BA, in which
       I took subjects like Philosophy, and a little mathematics.
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