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       Re: Lebanon crisis
   DIR By: Leslie
       Date: September 19, 2024, 3:03 pm
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       We are forgetting the influence of Christianity . I mean Vienna
       was nearly captured by big Moslem forces sometime in the 17h
       century and fortunately they were soundly defeated by prayer and
       the king of Poland (The battle of Vienna . 1683) otherwise we
       would be Moslem today. Prayer counted . A Theistic God helped
       them win. That was a religious war. No one gained territory, or
       power and it is not true to suggest that every war with a
       religious name is a search for power and the riches for an
       elite.
       The fanatical Moslems are responsible for all the Middle East
       wars. They start it all, and then complain when The IDF destroys
       them and their communication network, after bombing Israel and
       displacing thousands of Jews from Northern Israel. Now the
       Israeli soldiers have been moved up to the Lebanese border with
       Israel.
       #Post#: 19195--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lebanon crisis
   DIR By: Gregory
       Date: September 20, 2024, 3:19 am
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       Yes, the Battle of Vienna was indeed a decisive turning point in
       Muslim attempts to conquer Europe, as were the Battle of
       Poitiers (732) under the Frankish king Charles Martel and the
       sea Battle of Lepanto in 1571. Regrettably, by the time of the
       former, all of Spain had fallen to Muslim hordes and would
       remain so until they were expelled by the Spanish king Ferdinand
       in 1492 culminating the Reconquista of Spain.
       Islam is basically a religion of conquest from its beginnings in
       the 7th. century, extended by the sword and led by a violent
       Arabian warlord called Mohammed. To call it 'the religion of
       peace' is beyond farcical (try telling that to the families of
       the 9/ll victims, the victims of grooming gangs, the terrified
       French residents of the various banlieue in the big cities
       controlled by gangs of Muslim youths, and a host of other
       examples.) There have been violent episodes in the history of
       Christianity (eg. the Crusades, the conquest of Central America
       and a few other isolated examples in history) but they are the
       exceptions and abuses of Christ's message of peace and the way
       Christianity was first preached and extended by peaceful
       missionary work and not violent conquest.
       Back to the Lebanon crisis, I've just watched on the news the
       leader of Hizbollah, Hassan Nasrallah, in his medieval garb
       delivering a fiery speech threatening revenge on Israel after
       the humiliations of the last few days. Hizbollah has thousands
       of missiles at its disposal, supplied by Iran, which could
       overwhelm Israeli defences, but at the same time they are fully
       aware of a retaliation from the IDF which could leave Lebanon in
       ashes. Dangerous times...
       #Post#: 19199--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lebanon crisis
   DIR By: Leslie
       Date: September 20, 2024, 4:40 am
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       We soon forget the evil that the Muslim so called religion of
       peace  has brought to the world, including the latest attacks on
       Israel by Hezbollah fanatics in Lebanon.
       After a displacement of 60,000 *from Northern Israel
       attributable to drone attacks by Hezbollah . Why should we be
       surprised that Israel fights back, and why does the media always
       give unchecked stories on the air including today's BBC TV .
       Maybe there is a Hezbollah 'plant' in all popular media outlets.
       I for one am tired of seeing biased accounts of what is
       happening in the Middle East.
       *O'Neill, National Post, page A7. "Weaponized pagers send vital
       message:" 19/9/24.
       #Post#: 19200--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lebanon crisis
   DIR By: Gregory
       Date: September 20, 2024, 4:50 am
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       --- Quote from: Leslie link ---
       >
       > We soon forget the evil that the Muslim so called religion of
       peace  has brought to the world,
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       See my previous post on this.
       #Post#: 19201--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lebanon crisis
   DIR By: Leslie
       Date: September 20, 2024, 5:18 am
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       Yes, I did see your post Greg, and I agree with every word of
       it.
       #Post#: 19231--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lebanon crisis
   DIR By: Gregory
       Date: September 21, 2024, 5:51 am
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       Extract from a news article this morning, copied here due to
       otherwise paywall problems:
       "Israel killed the leader of Hezbollah’s special forces and up
       to ten other senior commanders in a Beirut air strike on Friday.
       IDF fighter jets struck a multi-storey building in the south of
       the Lebanese capital, killing Ibrahim Aqil, who ran Hezbollah’s
       Ridwan unit, during a meeting with his top lieutenants. Aqil, a
       career terrorist and close confidant of Hassan Nasrallah, the
       Hezbollah leader, had a $7 million bounty on his head for his
       role in the bombing of the US embassy in Beirut in 1983 which
       killed 63 people. He was also involved in the twin bombing
       attacks on the US Marine barracks in Lebanon the same year which
       killed 241 US personnel and 307 people in total.
       Daniel Hagari, an IDF spokesman, said the Hezbollah commanders
       had gathered underground beneath a residential building “using
       civilians as a human shield”. They were planning an attack in
       which they “intended to infiltrate and conquer Israeli
       communities and murder innocent civilians”, Mr Hagari said.
       Herzl Halevi, the IDF chief of staff, echoed his subordinate’s
       claim, saying the men had been planning an “October 7” on the
       northern border for years. Aqil was considered the second
       highest-ranking member of Hezbollah after its leader Nasrallah.
       In a speech on Thursday, Nasrallah had taunted Israel for
       missing the terrorist group’s most senior commanders in earlier
       pager and walkie-talkie attacks."
       Justice served I would say given the man's dreadful record of
       murder as well as the plans for another October 7th. in the
       north of Israel. Note also the use of civilians as shields for
       the terrorists, a tactic also employed by Hamas. These
       terrorists care little for their own people, it seems.
       #Post#: 19412--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lebanon crisis
   DIR By: Gregory
       Date: September 29, 2024, 4:19 am
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       After the Israeli IDF killing of the leader of Hizbollah, Hassan
       Nasrallah, the hope is that the terrorist organisation has been
       severely demoralised and weakened (seven other of its leading
       figures and commanders have also been killed recently.) The next
       few days should tell. Meanwhile, Iran must be weighing up its
       next move.
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