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       Israel
       By: Leslie Date: July 27, 2024, 8:02 pm
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       By Rex Murphy
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       Re: Israel
       By: Leslie Date: October 6, 2024, 3:09 pm
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       I honestly cannot understand the minds of Pro Palestinian
       demonstrators, on the streets of various European cities. It is
       obvious to anyone who uses their heads and doesn't let
       themselves get too emotional  that this is war . In the second
       world war people thought differently . They did not say how
       sorry it is that civilians get hurt.
       My reasons for supporting Israel are as plain as the nose on
       your face and have been stated here in previous posts. I do not
       support Pro Palestinians.
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       Re: Israel
       By: Lyn Date: October 6, 2024, 6:10 pm
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       Leslie: In the second world war people thought differently .
       They did not say how sorry it is that civilians get hurt.
       I'm pretty sure they did say that, frequently, on all sides.
       People have always said that.  I wasn't there but I've seen
       interviews and read things in which that was expressed.
       The recent pro-Palestinian demonstrations passed off peacefully,
       there was no rent-a-mob thank goodness.
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       Re: Israel
       By: Leslie Date: October 7, 2024, 5:12 am
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       I did live through the 2nd World War, and the concern was for
       our fighting men. As for the enemy, I thought the Axis have
       asked for it, Now they are going to get it.
       No sympathy was shown for German civilians. Hatred of Germans
       lasted after the war only for a short time, but I know of one
       Englishman of my age who still 'hates' the Germans.
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       Re: Israel
       By: Lyn Date: October 7, 2024, 6:23 am
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       You obviously knew some really nice people, Leslie :-).
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       Re: Israel
       By: guest18 Date: October 7, 2024, 10:23 am
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       In ALL wars it is the innocents on both sides who suffer much
       more than those who are responsible for the conflict, as is
       happening in the war between Israel and Hamas. :o
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       Re: Israel
       By: Leslie Date: October 7, 2024, 10:51 am
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       In the past violations of our criminal code took place for
       flying the flag of Hamas, yet the police in Toronto did not know
       what do, arrest them now, arrest them later or not at all.
       The elite politicians try to be on both sides of the issue, when
       it occurs during a Pro Palestinian parade. Now the police are
       saying we will arrest them later.
       The problem is not only that justice is done, but that justice
       must be seen to be done.
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       Re: Israel
       By: Lyn Date: October 7, 2024, 12:11 pm
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       You can't justify arresting people for demonstrating.  Canada is
       supposed to be a democracy for goodness sakes, same here.
       Arrests are made if things get heated and out of hand but if a
       protest is peaceful, leave it alone.
       The only reason politicians often side with one rather than the
       other side is because of vested interests.
       Going back to what was said earlier, the hatred of Germans
       stopped when I was still young. It may have lasted longer where
       Roses grew up in the Channel Islands which was understandable.
       People were sympathetic towards innocents being killed, plus the
       fact that young men were conscripted, ie had no choice but to go
       and fight and many were maimed or killed.  My father in law was
       a pow and he didn't hate Germans.  I don't suppose he was very
       fond of them immediately after the war for a few years but by
       the time I met him in the early seventies, he was OK with
       Germans.
       What we are experiencing now in he UK is an upsurge of fascism
       in some quarters; they make sure their voices are heard.  They
       infiltrate social media with hyperbole and downright lies, are
       insulting and sometimes semi-literate.  It's quite frightening.
       I'm disappointed that so many are my age and older, they should
       know better.  They hark back to the golden age, when they were
       young, which never was, and display bigotry and prejudice all
       the time.  Thankfully they are in the minority but certainly
       make their presence felt at every opportunity.
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       Re: Israel
       By: Leslie Date: October 7, 2024, 3:59 pm
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       We can arrest people under sec 319 of the Criminal Code for
       flying the flag of a terrorist Organization. 12 months in jail
       for that. The police in one case in January changed it to hate
       crime. The latter being easier to prosecute.
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       Re: Israel
       By: Leslie Date: October 7, 2024, 4:12 pm
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       Th experts at Microwave have changed the way we reply. Why don't
       they leave things alone.
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