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       Re: USEFUL IDIOTS
       By: Val Date: July 31, 2024, 5:00 pm
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       [quote author=Leslie link=topic=225.msg17816#msg17816
       date=1722358918]
       We obviously have different opinions on the food situation in
       Gaza. The truth will out - meanwhile I support and trust the
       Israelis more than Hamas who not only want all of Israel for
       themselves but want the death of all Jews. Hezbolah is just the
       same, funded by Iran, I often wonder why Iran is allowed to get
       away with such behaviour.
       [/quote]
       Netanyahu has shown his true colour in this latest killing of
       the Hamas political leader Ismail Haniyeh, he doesn’t want peace
       and isn’t even interested in routing out the Hamas terrorists in
       Gaza, all he is interested in is money and power, he is a the
       epitome of an evil terrorist, he has murdered over 40,000
       innocent civilians and more than half of those were children and
       close to 100,000 seriously wounded.
       Israel has also shown that it can direct missiles with great
       precision when it needs to; as it did in the latest killings,
       you would then have to wonder how its bombing of Gaza is so
       haphazard, how come it is bombing Hospitals, Schools, Police
       Stations, Crèches, Mosques, Christian churches, road
       infrastructures, harbours, Red Cross shelters, and even food
       stock piles awaiting delivery, you would have to be a real
       special lover of Israeli violence especially against people of
       the Islamic faith to follow and support such criminality, IMMHO
       anyone who supports Israel in these crimes against innocent
       civilians is not and never could be counted as Christian, I do
       not believe that God Almighty (if such entity exists)  could be
       so cruel as to condone this murderous Israeli regime. (that is
       my opinion as a non religious person)
       
       Former Israeli PM Ehud Olmert said today.
       “ Mr Netanyahu is "obsessed by his own rhetoric about the
       ability of Israel to bring about total victory which will never
       come against Hamas", he said.”
       Mr Olmert said: "I think we should stop the war. I have said it
       several times... I think that the war has come to an end. There
       is no need for Israel to go any further in Gaza. We don't have
       any major benefit we can gain from continuing the war.
       He said Israel must withdraw completely from Gaza and be
       replaced by Palestinian, Saudi Arabian, Bahraini, Egyptian and
       Jordanian forces."
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       Re: USEFUL IDIOTS
       By: Leslie Date: July 31, 2024, 6:17 pm
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       [b IMMHO anyone who supports Israel in these crimes against
       innocent civilians is not and never could be counted as
       Christian, I do not believe that God Almighty (if such entity
       exists)  could be so cruel as to condone this murderous Israeli
       regime. (that is my opinion as a non religious person)][/b]
       We certainly have different views, opinions.Bad things happen to
       good people, and God is not mocked.
       #Post#: 17852--------------------------------------------------
       Re: USEFUL IDIOTS
       By: Val Date: August 1, 2024, 10:09 am
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       [quote author=Leslie link=topic=225.msg17836#msg17836
       date=1722467871]
       We certainly have different views, opinions.Bad things happen to
       good people, and God is not mocked.
       [/quote]
       And you don’t think it’s mocking God if one supports Israel in
       the murderous destruction of innocent men, women and children,
       almost 20,000 children, tens of thousands more maimed for life.
       So tell me honestly, do you think that God doesn’t mind this
       mindless murder of these innocents because they are not Catholic
       children, is your God that cruel?
       USA intelligence estimated the number of Hamas soldiers in Gaza
       before October last year was about 20,000 and that now it’s
       probably well below 10,000, many having fled or given up their
       armed struggle, the rest killed
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       Re: USEFUL IDIOTS
       By: Lyn Date: August 1, 2024, 2:04 pm
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       Exactly.
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       Re: USEFUL IDIOTS
       By: Leslie Date: August 1, 2024, 3:21 pm
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       I don't believe Val's first sentence to be true. You are
       assuming you know "intent" and you are letting your emotions
       carry you away - and you do not.
       You will believing in "wokism" next, and insisting as you do
       that there is only one point of view on the subject and that is
       yours, forcing your opinion on others  which is the mark of a
       dictator.
       #Post#: 17866--------------------------------------------------
       Re: USEFUL IDIOTS
       By: guest18 Date: August 2, 2024, 3:30 am
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       [quote author=Val link=topic=225.msg17852#msg17852
       date=1722524984]
       [quote author=Leslie link=topic=225.msg17836#msg17836
       date=1722467871]
       We certainly have different views, opinions.Bad things happen to
       good people, and God is not mocked.
       [/quote]
       And you don’t think it’s mocking God if one supports Israel in
       the murderous destruction of innocent men, women and children,
       almost 20,000 children, tens of thousands more maimed for life.
       So tell me honestly, do you think that God doesn’t mind this
       mindless murder of these innocents because they are not Catholic
       children, is your God that cruel?
       USA intelligence estimated the number of Hamas soldiers in Gaza
       before October last year was about 20,000 and that now it’s
       probably well below 10,000, many having fled or given up their
       armed struggle, the rest killed
       [/quote]
       I agree with your post Val. Religious extremists are the ones
       who should be mocked. It is always the innocents who suffer.
       People who are religious extremists, be they Christians or
       Muslims, if a deity does exist it might slam heaven's door in
       their faces when they die!
       #Post#: 17871--------------------------------------------------
       Re: USEFUL IDIOTS
       By: Lyn Date: August 2, 2024, 4:10 am
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