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       #Post#: 17588--------------------------------------------------
       Re: American Elections
       By: Gregory Date: July 23, 2024, 3:10 am
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       She now has the backing of most of the major Democrat figures,
       including various would-be contenders for the nomination, like
       California governor Gavin Newsom, who have backed out of the
       race. As some commentators have pointed out, though, Barack
       Obama has remained silent on the issue so far and perhaps the
       card up his sleeve is a possible declaration of Michelle's
       putting her name forward for the nomination.
       All are agreed that she is the only figure with any certainty of
       defeating Trump in November with a ten per cent lead over him in
       polls. (Harris stays around ten per cent behind him.) Again,
       though, as has been discussed here, she has repeatedly said that
       she has no interest in entering the race and once declared,
       “Politics is hard. You’ve got to want it. It’s got to be in your
       soul, because it is so important. It is not in my soul.”  Well,
       people can change their minds, unlikely as it may seem in her
       case. Still, let's see how it goes...
       #Post#: 17592--------------------------------------------------
       Re: American Elections
       By: gwinnie Date: July 23, 2024, 3:50 am
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       I perked up at the very slight hint Michelle may run. However, I
       do like Kamala, and think it’s to her credit how she keeps
       saying that politics is not in her soul. She may be that leader
       that has “greatness thrust upon” her.
       #Post#: 17593--------------------------------------------------
       Re: American Elections
       By: Gregory Date: July 23, 2024, 4:14 am
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       [quote author=gwinnie link=topic=211.msg17592#msg17592
       date=1721724609]
       I perked up at the very slight hint Michelle may run. However, I
       do like Kamala, and think it’s to her credit how she keeps
       saying that politics is not in her soul. She may be that leader
       that has “greatness thrust upon” her.
       [/quote]
       You seem to have got confused, Gwinnie. It was Michelle who said
       politics wasn't in her soul (etc.) not Kamala Harris.
       #Post#: 17594--------------------------------------------------
       Re: American Elections
       By: Lyn Date: July 23, 2024, 5:37 am
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       Here is a recent article about Michelle Obama's attitude to
       politics:
  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/running-list-michelle-obama-said-192124400.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAIwUU018g_PbDRSR2DCsnePC79LAybOoFQ5JDCt83VGNHpSnsf2dxf2KQYpGjrVaYgiL6hCR51n3iYGcxLSwl5tDj0iThs0gOU_1LFA5KjplyEGjDYiv1DvTNYXSdDZs2SVi7ia8RRLXajLT6zIP6QH2M34GNBsdEwzOkOsXQi_p
       #Post#: 17598--------------------------------------------------
       Re: American Elections
       By: gwinnie Date: July 23, 2024, 1:39 pm
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       [quote author=Gregory link=topic=211.msg17593#msg17593
       date=1721726058]
       [quote author=gwinnie link=topic=211.msg17592#msg17592
       date=1721724609]
       I perked up at the very slight hint Michelle may run. However, I
       do like Kamala, and think it’s to her credit how she keeps
       saying that politics is not in her soul. She may be that leader
       that has “greatness thrust upon” her.
       [/quote]
       You seem to have got confused, Gwinnie. It was Michelle who said
       politics wasn't in her soul (etc.) not Kamala Harris.
       [/quote]
       I see how that happened. Harris name was the only name in that
       paragraph. This forum is difficult to read on a small screen, as
       you end up having to do a lot of scrolling and can lose track of
       the narrative.
       #Post#: 17599--------------------------------------------------
       Re: American Elections
       By: Lyn Date: July 23, 2024, 2:05 pm
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       I agree.
       #Post#: 17600--------------------------------------------------
       Re: American Elections
       By: Gregory Date: July 23, 2024, 2:36 pm
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       I don't. It should have been clear on a normal reading that I
       was talking about Michelle Obama, not Kamala Harris, not least
       as I said, "All are agreed that she is the only figure with any
       certainty of defeating Trump in November with a ten per cent
       lead over him in polls. (Harris stays around ten per cent behind
       him.)" That makes it logically evident that I was referring to
       Michelle in contrast with Harris, whom I said lags ten per cent
       behind Trump in the polls.
       I'd say the letters are clear enough on a normal computer screen
       and, moreover, I split the post into two paragraphs to avoid
       word congestion.
       As for this:
       "This forum is difficult to read on a small screen, as you end
       up having to do a lot of scrolling and can lose track of the
       narrative."
       Oh, come on Gwinnie- we're just talking about a couple of
       consecutive posts, not a whole bundle of them.
       #Post#: 17602--------------------------------------------------
       Re: American Elections
       By: Lyn Date: July 23, 2024, 10:16 pm
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       Oh for goodness sake, let it go, gwinnie isn't lying.  I read
       back and it was confusing until I read the second sentence
       (Harris behind).  As for small screens, gwinnie is probably
       using her phone which is sometimes difficult to read.  I use a
       laptop and it's fine, phone is for texts only.
       I think it is very unlikely that Michelle O will run and Kamala
       Harris is quite impressive from what I have read.  Whether the
       American voters agree or not remains to be seen.
       #Post#: 17620--------------------------------------------------
       Re: American Elections
       By: Gregory Date: July 24, 2024, 3:07 am
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       I know Gwinnie wasn't lying, something I would never accuse her
       of, just confused. You rightly spotted the real situation with
       that highlighted sentence whereas Gwinnie didn't. So it goes. I
       could add that the second paragraph began "She...", which
       clearly referred to Michelle, continuing the exposition from the
       first paragraph. Had it been about Harris, her name would have
       begun the paragraph to make it clear. And, finally  ;) , Harris
       would never have said that politics wasn't in her soul. It's
       been in her soul for decades, from when she was the California
       attorney general through her bid for the presidential candidacy
       nomination in 2020 (for which she gained only 3% support) to her
       appointment as Biden's VP. She's a very ambitious lady in that
       field.
       Alright, I'll let it go there. It's just that I'm someone who's
       a stickler for facts, for getting things right, perhaps
       obsessively so. My problem. As the Animals' song says, Please
       Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood.
       I agree that it's highly unlikely Michelle will enter the race,
       but until we hear from Barack, it's still somewhat uncertain.
       #Post#: 17630--------------------------------------------------
       Re: American Elections
       By: Beverly Date: July 24, 2024, 7:07 am
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       Feeling a slight bit more hopeful.
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