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Re: American Elections
By: Gregory Date: July 21, 2024, 1:47 am
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[quote author=gwinnie link=topic=211.msg17509#msg17509
date=1721505373]
I’m seriously thinking of writing to her, and telling her that
not it’s not just the US but the whole world that needs her as
the next POTUS.
[/quote]
I'm reluctant to pour cold water on your idea, Gwinnie, but I
doubt a single letter, even many, would induce her to alter her
decision. She probably has a secretary to handle her 'fan mail'
anyway and your letter wouldn't go beyond her/him on its way to
the sacks. Moreover, you can't really claim that the whole world
needs her as the next POTUS taking into account America's many
enemies in Russia, China, Iran, North Korea and other
anti-Western countries - in other words more than half the
world, in fact.
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Re: American Elections
By: Lyn Date: July 21, 2024, 4:56 am
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[quote author=Blueroses link=topic=211.msg17502#msg17502
date=1721473216]
It is clear that Biden is incapable of beating Trump this time
around. I hope he sees sense and stands down.
[/quote]
He might do that, Roses, I imagine he has many advisers and has
probably been told that right now is not the right time. The
party want to feel secure about electing their next leader
before letting go of this one. We have to remember that
presidents don't usually make all the decisions off their own
bat. He'll probably be glad to go and is hoping he doesn't have
to stay in office much longer.
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Re: American Elections
By: gwinnie Date: July 21, 2024, 5:21 am
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Replying to Greg.. (I’m posting on my mobile and usually the
forum presents in a ‘for-mobiles’ format. However, today,
somehow, it is presenting in website formatting, which is too
complex for a tiny screen.)
I do appreciate Michelle O is not able to read all her
correspondence. Any letter from me would be bundled with others
on the same theme. Then again, that would be a joining of voices
that could be helpful actually!
The reason I feel the world needs her is precisely because there
is so much volatility and risk of conflicts at this time. I’d
much rather Michelle at the helm. She has a calm, considered and
rational approach, and has a clear understanding of the role
having been First Lady. I don’t agree with Trump’s world view
and his approaches, based on what I saw in his term as POTUS.
Michelle would promote peace through proper international
relations. Trump on the other hand ….?
I do understand that Michelle does not see this as the right
step for her. If only Biden were 10 years younger :/
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Re: American Elections
By: guest18 Date: July 21, 2024, 5:31 am
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[quote author=Lyn link=topic=211.msg17534#msg17534
date=1721555818]
[quote author=Blueroses link=topic=211.msg17502#msg17502
date=1721473216]
It is clear that Biden is incapable of beating Trump this time
around. I hope he sees sense and stands down.
[/quote]
He might do that, Roses, I imagine he has many advisers and has
probably been told that right now is not the right time. The
party want to feel secure about electing their next leader
before letting go of this one. We have to remember that
presidents don't usually make all the decisions off their own
bat. He'll probably be glad to go and is hoping he doesn't have
to stay in office much longer.
[/quote]
Many of Biden's advisors have told him to step down, it appears
to be Biden who is refusing to do so.
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Re: American Elections
By: Gregory Date: July 21, 2024, 7:30 am
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[quote author=gwinnie link=topic=211.msg17535#msg17535
date=1721557316]
The reason I feel the world needs her is precisely because there
is so much volatility and risk of conflicts at this time. I’d
much rather Michelle at the helm. She has a calm, considered and
rational approach, and has a clear understanding of the role
having been First Lady. I don’t agree with Trump’s world view
and his approaches, based on what I saw in his term as POTUS.
Michelle would promote peace through proper international
relations. Trump on the other hand ….?
[/quote]
She could promote peace for all she wishes with the best of
intentions but I fear it would ultimately prove futile and
indeed give a greater advantage to the (aforementioned) enemies
of the West and to our way of life, which is defended by
strength and resolve, not weakness or good intentions. These
undemocratic dictators and aggressive leaders would laugh at the
idea of "proper international relations", or rather they would
see that as meaning domination on their part, their own world
order. Appeasement of Hitler in 1938 encouraged him to greater
foreign adventures and World War 2, a durable lesson. As the
realistic Latin phrase has it, Si vis pacem, para bellum ("If
you want peace, prepare for war".) In fact, every American
president has had to face up to that reality, including
Michelle's own husband when in office.
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Re: American Elections
By: gwinnie Date: July 21, 2024, 12:01 pm
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Reply to Greg. Re Chamberlain, I think it was the right approach
but 20 years too late. His balanced
thinking should have been used at Versailles. Instead, the
reparations imposed upon Germany were too severe. Dutch children
were playing shop with German money as it had become worthless.
Germany was plummeted into such a parlous economy, that it
enabled the populist demagoguery of Hitler to take hold,
promising and delivering economic recovery… and the cost was
horrific.
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Re: American Elections
By: Gregory Date: July 21, 2024, 12:34 pm
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The parlous state of the German economy in the early 1930's when
Hitler came to power had nothing to do with the Treaty of
Versailles and reparations, which were easing after the reforms
following the great inflation of 1923, the 1924 Dawes Plan and
the reform of the currency. The German economy was recovering
significantly during the late 1920's but the Wall Street Crash
of 1929 had a devastating effect in Germany as it did worldwide
with massive unemployment and social unrest, which gave rise to
the Nazi Party which had been insignificant until then.
As for Chamberlain, his objectives had nothing to do with the
German economy and more to do with achieving peace in Europe in
the light of German rearmament and Britain's lagging behind, as
well as a fear of communism, particularly Stalin's brand, shared
by many of his contemporaries and so well expounded in Jonathan
Haslam's excellent 2022 book, The Spectre of War. In 1919, he
fully supported the provisions of the Treaty of Versailles as a
just response to Germany's war guilt.
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Re: American Elections
By: gwinnie Date: July 21, 2024, 12:55 pm
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Newsflash: Biden has withdrawn
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Re: American Elections
By: Stephen Horsfall Date: July 21, 2024, 1:14 pm
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HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1e5xpdzkd8o
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Re: American Elections
By: Gregory Date: July 21, 2024, 1:33 pm
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The question now is who will be the Democrat candidate for the
election. Biden will continue until November while a replacement
candidate is chosen, hopefully not Kamala Harris whose
popularity ratings are even lower than Biden's and would
probably hand the election to Trump.
From a news report:
"There is no precedent in modern US history for a presidential
nominee to drop out this close to an election.
The selection of Mr Biden’s replacement will be confirmed at the
Democrat National Convention, which this year begins on August
19. Delegates to the convention anoint the party’s candidate at
a formal vote."
That would leave just two and a half months before the election.
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