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Re: American Elections
By: gwinnie Date: July 11, 2024, 12:56 pm
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Dire. Wasn’t it a similar situation with Reagan?
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Re: American Elections
By: Gregory Date: July 12, 2024, 2:27 am
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[quote author=gwinnie link=topic=211.msg17355#msg17355
date=1720720571]
Dire. Wasn’t it a similar situation with Reagan?
[/quote]
No. He gave no similar signs during his two terms as president,
although he did develop Alzheimer's in subsequent years. Also,
he was just 70 years old on assuming office and 74 when starting
his second term. Biden is now 81 years old, although age alone
isn't the main factor but rather a clear decline in his
cognitive faculties.
Biden referred to Volodymyr Zelensky as “President Putin” in
front of almost two dozen world leaders, in a significant gaffe
that will worsen the crisis engulfing his presidency. The
president also confused Kamala Harris with Donald Trump an hour
later.
On George Clooney's intervention (see my previous post),
apparently it is understood that Barack Obama was aware of it in
advance and did not attempt to change his mind or stop him from
publishing the piece.
Here is Clooney with Biden at the June fundraiser Clooney
alluded to:
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Re: American Elections
By: gwinnie Date: July 14, 2024, 1:39 am
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Shots at Trump rally. I hope and pray that there is no unrest in
the aftermath. Keep safe America.
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Re: American Elections
By: guest18 Date: July 14, 2024, 2:55 am
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I am wondering if this was somehow set up by Trump to get the
sympathy, and more importantly the votes he requires to get a
second term in office? Trump is likely to put the blame on
Biden, imo.
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Re: American Elections
By: Gregory Date: July 14, 2024, 3:18 am
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Trump was slightly injured when one of the bullets struck his
right ear while a member of the crowd was killed and two others
injured. From the BBC News site:
"The FBI identified the attacker as Thomas Matthew Crooks, a
20-year-old man from Pennsylvania. He was shot dead by police at
the scene."
Here's the surprise, though:
"Crooks was a registered Republican, the Associated Press have
reported."
Obviously, much more information will be forthcoming as the day
wears on, but the repercussions of this attempted assassination
will already be under way.
On Blueroses'conspiracy theory:
1) How could someone firing into a crowd from a rooftop some
distance away be sure just to clip Trump's ear? Half an inch to
the right and Trump would have been dead.
2) The killing of a member of the crowd with two others
seriously wounded would hardly garner sympathy for
Trump if it emerged, as it certainly would, that he had planned
it.
3) He's not going to blame Biden, as if it would be believed
that he was responsible anyway.
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Re: American Elections
By: guest18 Date: July 14, 2024, 4:47 am
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I have just seen this on the BBC News
"But some of Mr Trump’s closest allies and supporters are
already blaming Mr Biden for the violence, with one Republican
congressman accusing the president of “inciting an
assassination” in a post on X."
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Re: American Elections
By: gwinnie Date: July 14, 2024, 5:06 am
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Thank you Greg for the analysis. I instinctively thought this
was no “set-up.” I don’t share Trump’s worldview but at the same
time I simply don’t believe he would resort to such reckless
measures. Sadly he is not the first prominent figure to have
attempts made against his life.
ETA - having just seen Rose’s new post. I wouldn’t go as far as
blaming Biden either. However, I do think the modern personality
politics ‘game’ does work to stir up those that may have mental
health issues to take extreme actions. I could be wrong of
course, these are my immediate ‘instinctive’ responses to the
tragedy, where someone attending the rally lost their life. It
must have been terrifying for all present.
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Re: American Elections
By: Stephen Horsfall Date: July 14, 2024, 5:41 am
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[quote author=Blueroses link=topic=211.msg17383#msg17383
date=1720943738]
I am wondering if this was somehow set up by Trump to get the
sympathy, and more importantly the votes he requires to get a
second term in office? Trump is likely to put the blame on
Biden, imo.
[/quote]Don't be silly. That's the sort of nonsense conspiracy
theorists come out with.
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Re: American Elections
By: Gregory Date: July 14, 2024, 6:01 am
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I already referred to her (quoted) post as a conspiracy theory
in my post after hers and, moreover, offered three criticisms of
it. Perhaps you didn't read it...
Gwinnie - good post!
Responding to Blueroses, that still doesn't mean that Trump
planned it. (See my comments about how the shot almost killed
him, a risk he obviously wouldn't take.) His associates can
spout all they want about Biden's role but Trump has said
nothing of the sort. Moreover, he doesn't need a sympathy vote.
According to one article, "The polls already suggest that Trump
is likely to win back the presidency in November, after a bad
few months for his opponent, and a criminal conviction that has
had little impact on his popularity." His popularity ratings are
already much higher than Biden's, which are at an all time low.
(If anyone needs a sympathy vote, it's Biden!)
Now, let's await more information on the shooter and other
aspects of the attempt.
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Re: American Elections
By: Stephen Horsfall Date: July 14, 2024, 9:52 am
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Trump has apparently urged Americans to "stand united", which is
a bit rich from the most deliberately divisive president of
modern times.
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