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       Re: Trump verdict
       By: Leslie Date: June 2, 2024, 3:33 pm
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       I heard that Trump has received over $70,000,000 in  political
       donations since his convictions on 34 felonies. He must have
       some supporters and they cannot all be crazy either. As for
       President Biden, apart from his dementia and his faults his own
       son Hunter Biden is in court tomorrow on charges of some kind or
       other which at present I don't know much about.
       I am very sad to see this happening in both families and
       political parties. it is certainly not good for America.
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       Re: Trump verdict
       By: guest18 Date: June 3, 2024, 3:20 am
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       Although Biden is too old for the job of President, he is not as
       demented as Trump who behaves like a young child having a temper
       tantrum, when he doesn't get his own way,
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       Re: Trump verdict
       By: Lyn Date: June 3, 2024, 3:32 am
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       Yes, it is news to me that President Biden has dementia. I know
       the media homed in on him being forgetful about a couple of
       things but don't we all know they do similar to anyone of high
       profile?  He seems OK to me and as for his son, Hunter, that is
       a very complicated business but hardly his father's fault.  If
       he wasn't a Biden it's unlikely we'd have even heard about it,
       whatever it was would be sorted, over and done with by now.
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       Re: Trump verdict
       By: Beverly Date: June 3, 2024, 8:34 am
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       The Biden-dementia thing is an excellent example of how the
       media manipulates people into believing something that just
       isn’t true. It’s so effective, though.
       It’s so funny how the same people who don’t care about Trump’s
       actual criminal convictions spent years calling for Hillary
       Clinton to be imprisoned. Again, an excellent example of how
       easily manipulated people can be.
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       Re: Trump verdict
       By: Leslie Date: June 3, 2024, 9:04 am
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       I obtained my information from the same sources you did, the TV
       (Cdn in my case) and the internet - whatever shows up on the
       internet.
       There are some who say Biden is not suffering from dementia, but
       the majority say he is. As for Trump's criminal convictions. I
       know about the recent 34 felonies which he was found guilty of
       .. that is all. As for Mrs Clinton (and Obama,) I liked neither
       of them. It is good that Mrs Clinton did not win the election at
       that time
       If Biden gets re elected in Jan 2025 then he will be 82 and if
       Trump is re elected he will be 78 that year.
       This being an election year misinformation about the health and
       ability to do the job , by eithe candidate, will be widespread.
       Although there is little to choose between the two of them I
       prefer Trump to Biden.
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       Re: Trump verdict
       By: Beverly Date: June 3, 2024, 9:37 am
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       Recently, in an effort to explain to my grandkids and others
       when talking about the issue of political media manipulation, I
       came up with this analogy:
       Imagine a forest that is comprised mainly of oak trees. But,
       there is small patch of elms on the perimeter. Some people
       believe, based on media coverage about the forest, that the elms
       outnumber the oaks. They believe it based on the many sources
       reporting such using photographs and eyewitness accounts.
       Opposing media sources report the opposite even using aerial
       views of the forest and explanations as to why some (the money
       behind promoting the elm story) need people to believe the elm
       version. Readers of both media sources distrust the opposing
       sources, which, despite evidence is what allows the elm
       narrative to do so well. (I usually don’t go into why one side
       wants people to believe the false reporting on the size of the
       elm patch, but a realistic scenario would reveal those behind
       the elm-forest narrative will benefit $$ from people being
       deceived about the size and importance of the elm patch.)
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       Re: Trump verdict
       By: guest18 Date: June 3, 2024, 9:51 am
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       How on earth anyone can prefer the evil Trump to Biden goodness
       only knows! ::)
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       Re: Trump verdict
       By: Leslie Date: June 3, 2024, 5:16 pm
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       I think Trump is the lesser of two evils, and one of them will
       be elected as POTUS.
       Money is one reason why people run for office, another is  POWER
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       Re: Trump verdict
       By: guest18 Date: June 4, 2024, 5:44 am
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       Biden hasn't been convicted of any crime, whereas Trump has been
       convicted of many. How can any one claiming to be a Christian
       support Trump who is fraudster and sexually abusive? If Jesus
       was around today, I wonder if he would vote for Trump?
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       Re: Trump verdict
       By: Leslie Date: June 4, 2024, 6:15 am
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       Biden has not been caught yet and Trump is appealing his
       politically motivated results of his trials.
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