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       Trump verdict
       By: gwinnie Date: May 30, 2024, 4:13 pm
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       Live on bbc now, guilty on all counts. Can he still run for
       election? Might the US be led from behind bars? Or will Biden
       trump him (pun intended, sorry)?
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       Re: Trump verdict
       By: Lyn Date: May 31, 2024, 2:18 am
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       This is too much even for his most die-hard supporters.
       All I wish is he would just fade into obscurity.
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       Re: Trump verdict
       By: Leslie Date: May 31, 2024, 4:07 am
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       [quote author=Lyn link=topic=199.msg16369#msg16369
       date=1717139930]
       This is too much even for his most die-hard supporters.
       All I wish is he would just fade into obscurity.
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       [/quote]
       Very true Lyn, it is with profound sadness that I hear the
       verdicts on 32 counts*.
       The American justice system requires faith in its verdicts and
       anyone, anyone at all who does not agree with them , such as the
       guilty who expresses this view will have his sentence increased,
       over that which would noramally occur.  THat is wrong. The
       second point is that the Americans (50% of them) almost worship
       the office of President of the United States. God only requires
       worship.
       *THat should read 34 counts.
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       Re: Trump verdict
       By: Stephen Horsfall Date: May 31, 2024, 4:13 am
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       In any sensible country a conviction like this, which will
       probably lead to a prison sentence, would debar him from
       political office automatically, but there's still talk of him
       standing.
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       Re: Trump verdict
       By: Lyn Date: May 31, 2024, 4:44 am
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       He might prefer to sit that one out.  I doubt he will go to
       prison, I think we will gradually hear less and less of the man.
       However, I dread to think who the Republicans will drag up now
       as an icon.
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       Re: Trump verdict
       By: Leslie Date: May 31, 2024, 4:44 am
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       [quote author=Steve link=topic=199.msg16371#msg16371
       date=1717146810]
       In any sensible country a conviction like this, which will
       probably lead to a prison sentence, would debar him from
       political office automatically, but there's still talk of him
       standing.
       [/quote]
       As an  ex speech writer for President Bush ( A Canadian whose
       name I forget*) said on CBC news last night.
       "Let us not elect a convicted felon, let us elect a non
       convicted felon."
       *I  remember his name now: it is David Frum. His mother used to
       broadcast on  "Has It Happens" on CBC radio in the evening.
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       Re: Trump verdict
       By: Beverly Date: May 31, 2024, 8:52 am
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       From what I can gather, this conviction will have no effect on
       Trump’s supporters. The majority of Trump’s base have been
       brainwashed to believe only a few news sources are truthful. The
       rest are propaganda. Their trusted sources are spinning this as
       a witch hunt using bits and pieces of actual quotes or events.
       They will never see the news that has covered the trial and
       revealed evidence that supports the conviction. This is why his
       base continues to grow and support him. Most don’t know or trust
       what is actually happening.
       Anyway, the short of it is this will have no impact on whether
       he can be the next president. If anything, it just might have
       sealed his win. His base are now flooding his campaign with even
       more money to make sure he wins.
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       Re: Trump verdict
       By: Lyn Date: May 31, 2024, 10:08 am
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       In other words, Leslie, if a person doesn't get caught, he can
       still be elected.tha
       Beverly, I wouldn't disagree about the press and the media in
       general, they cannot be trusted. Once they've got it in for
       someone, they can say anything and God help that person.  We see
       that here all the time. However, I mistrust Trump even more.than
       the media.
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       Re: Trump verdict
       By: Leslie Date: May 31, 2024, 10:43 am
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       Yes, gwinnie Biden can still be elected. I hope they stop mail
       in ballots or at least ensure that proper reporting measures are
       taken. The validity of the last Presidential election was
       questioned. No one know exactly how accurate the results were.
       Have measures to eliminate fraud been taken?  One wonders!
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       Re: Trump verdict
       By: guest18 Date: June 2, 2024, 11:37 am
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       It is totally crazy that Trump's supporters will still vote for
       him to be president again even if he is sent to prison. :o
       I see there is now a 'Republicans Against Trump' group, whom I
       came across on Twitter, when I posted on that forum, but I have
       now deleted my membership.
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