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       #Post#: 16455--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Israel
       By: guest18 Date: June 3, 2024, 10:11 am
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       I sincerely hope sense prevails where the Israel/Gaza war is
       concerned.
       Netanyahu is likely to do what suits him, just like his best
       buddy, Trump. Netanyahu is a secular Jew, he is on his third
       marriage and apparently has had multiple affairs! :o  Many Jews
       want Netanyahu to accept Biden's advice, as shown by the recent
       protests in Israel. I suspect the Jews who suffered and died
       from the terrible atrocities committed in the concentration
       camps during WW2 could see what crimes Netanyahu in committing,
       I think they would be shocked and disgusted.
       #Post#: 16460--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Israel
       By: Stephen Horsfall Date: June 3, 2024, 10:52 am
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       [quote author=Beverly link=topic=193.msg16447#msg16447
       date=1717423048]
       I’ll be surprised if Netanyahu agrees to this, which seems like
       an excellent plan. His goal has never been peace.
       [/quote]So will I. It does indeed look as tough he's making
       impossible demands.
       #Post#: 18322--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Israel
       By: Beverly Date: August 13, 2024, 7:58 am
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       I read an article in the Atlantic Monthly (to which I subscribe)
       about Hamas and their “Decolonization” effort to wipe Israel
       out, using the slogan “From the River to the Sea.”
       The article rightly condemns the horrific Oct. 7 attack on
       Israel, which included kidnappings and rapes. It also rightly
       likened the attack to a “Mongol raid for slaughter and human
       trophies.” But,…
       What the writer didn’t address is Israel’s systematic
       “decolonization” of Palestinians over the years. Also, no
       mention at all about the nearly 40,000 civilians Israel has
       killed since.
       #Post#: 18324--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Israel
       By: Lyn Date: August 13, 2024, 10:03 am
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       I feel as though I want to bang their heads together. They could
       easily live peaceably alongside each other if they wanted to, in
       fact many ordinary citizens on both sides do want to.
       #Post#: 18325--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Israel
       By: guest18 Date: August 13, 2024, 11:17 am
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       [quote author=Lyn link=topic=193.msg18324#msg18324
       date=1723561427]
       I feel as though I want to bang their heads together. They could
       easily live peaceably alongside each other if they wanted to, in
       fact many ordinary citizens on both sides do want to.
       [/quote]
       I agree, Lyn.
       #Post#: 18326--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Israel
       By: Leslie Date: August 13, 2024, 11:40 am
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       [quote author=Beverly link=topic=193.msg18322#msg18322
       date=1723553915]
       I read an article in the Atlantic Monthly (to which I subscribe)
       about Hamas and their “Decolonization” effort to wipe Israel
       out, using the slogan “From the River to the Sea.”
       The article rightly condemns the horrific Oct. 7 attack on
       Israel, which included kidnappings and rapes. It also rightly
       likened the attack to a “Mongol raid for slaughter and human
       trophies.” But,…
       What the writer didn’t address is Israel’s systematic
       “decolonization” of Palestinians over the years. Also, no
       mention at all about the nearly 40,000 civilians Israel has
       killed since.
       [/quote]
  HTML https://decolonizepalestine.com/myth/the-name-palestine-was-a-roman-invention/
       There is a war going on at present.
       Before the present war between Israel and Hamas , Jews lived in
       Gaza and left voluntarily.
       There is also the 1967 War when Israel captured parts the Golan
       Heights from Syria  ( I have walked on that land). It was done
       because Syria being on high ground would fire down from the
       hill. Israel is quite right to keep it.
       #Post#: 18330--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Israel
       By: guest18 Date: August 13, 2024, 12:41 pm
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       Israel has no right to steal land which does not belong to to
       that country.
       #Post#: 18331--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Israel
       By: Leslie Date: August 13, 2024, 2:05 pm
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       Check out how the United States took states or places from
       Mexico that were not theirs!
       In the 1967 War Israel won the Golan Heights from Syria. The
       United Nations of all the small countries which call themselves
       democratic , but are dictatorships voted against. The United
       States can veto the United Nations decisions.
       Look at the transfer of Poland to Joe Stalin at the Yalta
       agreement of 1945. That Polish case was most unjust as it gave
       Poland up to Communist territory.  Strange things happen at the
       end of a war, both good and bad!
       It was President Trump who reversed US policy and acknowledged
       Israel could keep the Golan Heights- many years after the Six
       Day War of 1967
       #Post#: 18337--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Israel
       By: Stephen Horsfall Date: August 14, 2024, 2:17 am
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       [quote author=Leslie link=topic=193.msg18331#msg18331
       date=1723575915]
       Check out how the United States took states or places from
       Mexico that were not theirs!
       In the 1967 War Israel won the Golan Heights from Syria. The
       United Nations of all the small countries which call themselves
       democratic , but are dictatorships voted against. The United
       States can veto the United Nations decisions.
       Look at the transfer of Poland to Joe Stalin at the Yalta
       agreement of 1945. That Polish case was most unjust as it gave
       Poland up to Communist territory.  Strange things happen at the
       end of a war, both good and bad!
       It was President Trump who reversed US policy and acknowledged
       Israel could keep the Golan Heights- many years after the Six
       Day War of 1967
       [/quote]And your point is...?
       #Post#: 18340--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Israel
       By: Leslie Date: August 14, 2024, 4:59 am
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       My point is to make people aware of history about Israel. and
       not just Israel. They should be aware that in War, civility
       tends to disappear and is replaced by cruelty, avarice and evil.
       The victor changes things to suit himself, and heaven help you
       if you live in an evil dictatorship.
       Mao Tse Tung wrote "Political power come from the barrel of a
       gun ."in his little red book.
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