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       #Post#: 15973--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Israel
       By: Leslie Date: May 4, 2024, 11:22 am
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       A university professor an economist and an associate professor,
       Kevin A.Bryan of the U of T, infiltrated the encampment on
       Thursday and discovered that the majority of protesters were not
       U of T students or even affiliated with them.
       (National Post)
       There is much more in the Saturday edition but one wonders why
       Trudeau doesn't intervene and invoke the Emergency Act as some
       are terrorist sympathizers, instead of doing nothing. Trudeau
       did invoke the Emergency Act against innocent truckers  and
       froze some of their bank accounts .
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       Re: Israel
       By: Lyn Date: May 4, 2024, 11:31 am
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       You've lost me now, Leslie :-).  I haven't a clue as to what you
       are talking about, or what encampment.  I might google to see if
       I can find something that resembles what you are meaning.
       Have a good day.
       Edit:  I found this, I expect their barks are worse than their
       bites:
  HTML https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/encampment-uoft-day-2-1.7193100
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       Re: Israel
       By: Leslie Date: May 4, 2024, 2:30 pm
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       I am glad you found it: that this encampment = the U of TORONTO
       Pro Palestinian one.
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       Re: Israel
       By: Lyn Date: May 4, 2024, 2:53 pm
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       Re: Israel
       By: Lyn Date: May 5, 2024, 12:47 am
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       Good morning everyone.  It is still early in the morning here, I
       just read the following article and think we must pray that the
       talks are successful, the ceasefire happens and hostages
       released.  So many on both sides want this very much, the
       conflict is getting nowhere.
       I hope Greg is OK, no response to my messages so far but, as I
       said earlier, I am not sure they went off, there's nothing in my
       sent box.
  HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68960585
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       Re: Israel
       By: gwinnie Date: May 5, 2024, 2:39 am
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       Thank you Lyn for sharing this news item, the world needs peace.
       Yes, I hope Greg is ok. He did say previously he has problems
       with his PC from time to time. We have no other means of
       contacting him.
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       Re: Israel
       By: Lyn Date: May 5, 2024, 3:40 pm
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       I just found this and my heart sank, but I should have
       anticipated it:
  HTML https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/05/israel-tells-hamas-to-accept-ceasefire-terms-or-risk-new-onslaught-in-near-future
       BBC television news later was even more sinister.
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       Re: Israel
       By: Lyn Date: May 7, 2024, 1:18 am
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       It gets worse I'm afraid.
  HTML https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/live-updates-israel-urges-civilians-leave-eastern-rafah-cease-fire-hop-rcna150801
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       Re: Israel
       By: Lyn Date: May 7, 2024, 12:36 pm
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       As you said in an earlier post, Leslie, there are two sides to
       this conflict. Each side wants to annihilate the other. Hamas is
       a political party, not an army.
       Israel is approximately 2,260 square miles compared to Gaza's
       141.
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       Re: Israel
       By: Val Date: May 7, 2024, 5:14 pm
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       [quote author=Leslie link=topic=193.msg16027#msg16027
       date=1715096014]
       it is very difficult for Israel to defeat the enemy Hamas when
       they won't put on a uniform and fight like men, and hide behind
       civilians often putting them in danger by storing weapons in
       hospitals, apart from hiding there themselves.
       According to Israel the war will continue until Hamas is wiped
       completely out of Gaza. I trust the IDF to do the right thing in
       order to survive as a nation. Hamas has promised to destroy
       Israel and the Jews. The IDF has little choice here, but to
       contrast the damage to Israel in the near future if Hamas is not
       eliminated in Gaza to the damage done to the civilian population
       if Gaza is invaded at this late stage. Many are complicit with
       the Hamas, as they have been fed Jew hate propaganda since
       childhood.
       [/quote]
       Children and women and the old are not soldiers, but these are
       the ones Israel is murdering.
       I cannot understand how a man who claims to be a Christian can
       support that murderous dictator Netanyahu and his Zionist
       scumbags and their awful treatment and murder of innocent
       Palestinians and the people of Gaza.
       Sure Hamas is a terrorist organisation but and so is Israel
       under that maniacal dictator Netanyahu and his military
       Zionists.
       A Terrorist is defined as “a practitioner of terrorism as a
       means of coercion”.
       Israel has been terrorising Palestinians since 1948 they have
       been destroying Palestinian homes in the West Bank on a grand
       scale since 1967, they have stolen thousands of hectares of land
       and destroyed Homes. Schools, Hospitals and even Crèches in the
       West Bank and this has been going on for many years, they have
       been doing this to clear every Palestinian out of the West Bank,
       an Irish citizen who lived in the West Bank teaching for many
       years had first hand experience of this land clearing when their
       school was closed by the IDF under the guise of being an unsafe
       structure with damaged foundations, this school was demolished
       and a fence put up all around the area, but less than 2 years
       later an Israeli settler was allowed to build a big house on the
       plot and when the Palestinians authority demanded it to stop as
       the land was theirs, they were told. As the area had been
       unoccupied for near 2 years they lost the rights to that land
       and it had passed onto Israel.
       Israeli has built carriage was in the West Bank for Illegal
       settlers but the local Palestinians are not allowed to use them,
       families with school going children are not allowed to go to
       Israeli schools and because of the Apartheid roads many have to
       drive 10/20 Kilometres on dirt roads to reach schools that are
       only 1 or 2 kilometres from their homes.
       They regularly set up road blocks to stop the free travel of
       Palestinians these also stop ambulance and school busses and
       parents driving their children to school, these can close the
       roads for hours and not even emergency vehicles can get through,
       this is terrorism.
       Hamas was formed during what was called the first Palestinian
       intifada an uprising against Israeli occupation of the West
       Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem as I wrote earlier the theft of
       Palestinian lands, murder of innocent people going about the
       business, destruction of Palestinian homes and mosques and
       hospitals, Israel by their unhuman actions of peaceable people
       have created Hamas and by this cruel action against Gazans they
       will create an even more violent Hamas.
       One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
       
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