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#Post#: 1629--------------------------------------------------
HYTERA MD-782 + ZUMSpot + TGIF ... questions
DIR By: W4AFK
Date: August 11, 2019, 3:35 pm
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I use an OpenSpot V1 (OS1) for DMR-BM on freq A, a ZUMSpot(ZS2)
for DMR-TGIF on Freq 2 and another ZUMspot(ZS1) on frequency 3
for D-Star. I am struggling with the radio setup on ZS2.
Question 1 - Is it important what "TS" I set the "Hytera MD782"
(commercial version) for use on TGIF? I presently have it on TS1
and CC1 (CC as the ZS2).
Issue (1) - TG 777 - I set TS2 to 777 on the SelfCare screen and
I can see the activity on the ZS2 screen. However, nothing is
received on the HYTERA radio. Is it possible that the HYTERA
MD-782 cannot be placed in "Promiscuous Mode"? I did try to set
the MD782 to TS2 with the same result.
Issue (2) - Assuming that the MD782 doesn't support Promiscuous
mode, I set it to another TG (310) in SelfCare and still don't
hear anything (maybe there wasn't activity ... and still
nothing)
Note that my OS1 and ZS1 systems are running just fine and per
what I am seeing on the screen, the ZS2 is also running fine.
Can someone share with me just ONE channel (etc.) code plug
setting so I can make sure that I am not missing something in my
MD782 code plug
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Channels - TX/RX Freq (Freq 2) same as ZS2.
I assume I can scan BM and TGIF by simply scanning two different
channels. One works with OS1 (freq 1) while the other would be
with ZS2 (freq 2).
Contacts - Added the TGIF contacts. For example: Name:
"TGIF-110", "Group Call" and Call ID: "110"
Scan List - Added the "TGIF-110" to the same scan list
CC - Color Code 1 (same as in ZS2)
TS - Time Slot 1
RX Group List - Added the "TGIF-110" to the RX Group List
Zone - Added "TGIF-110" to the "Zone Members"
If someone can correct what I am doing wrong for just one TG
then I can handle the others. I compared my TGIF TGs to what I
configured for the OS1-BM as I got that one right. I must be
missing something VERY basic (sigh).
#Post#: 1637--------------------------------------------------
Re: HYTERA MD-782 + ZUMSpot + TGIF ... questions
DIR By: ke5cdk
Date: August 12, 2019, 1:31 am
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--- Quote from: W4AFK link ---
>
> I use an OpenSpot V1 (OS1) for DMR-BM on freq A, a
ZUMSpot(ZS2) for DMR-TGIF on Freq 2 and another ZUMspot(ZS1) on
frequency 3 for D-Star. I am struggling with the radio setup on
ZS2.
>
> Question 1 - Is it important what "TS" I set the "Hytera
MD782" (commercial version) for use on TGIF? I presently have it
on TS1 and CC1 (CC as the ZS2).
>
--- End Quote ---
Normally TS2 on hotspots
but I think they have TGIF where it will work on TS1 or TS2 as
long as thats what your hotspot/OS is set to use
--- Quote ---
>
>
> Issue (1) - TG 777 - I set TS2 to 777 on the SelfCare screen
and I can see the activity on the ZS2 screen. However, nothing
is received on the HYTERA radio. Is it possible that the HYTERA
MD-782 cannot be placed in "Promiscuous Mode"? I did try to set
the MD782 to TS2 with the same result.
>
--- End Quote ---
you will have to use promiscuous mode or "group call match" off
or a/some receive group, else the radio will ignore what it
hears
--- Quote ---
>
> Issue (2) - Assuming that the MD782 doesn't support
Promiscuous mode, I set it to another TG (310) in SelfCare and
still don't hear anything (maybe there wasn't activity ... and
still nothing)
>
--- End Quote ---
some radios require a receive group set to a channel to hear the
TG within it, else its def
--- Quote ---
>
> Note that my OS1 and ZS1 systems are running just fine and per
what I am seeing on the screen, the ZS2 is also running fine.
>
> Can someone share with me just ONE channel (etc.) code plug
setting so I can make sure that I am not missing something in my
MD782 code plug
>
--- End Quote ---
I don't have a hytera or the related CPS to create the plug.
if you provide a link to the cps, when I get some (limited) time
i'll see what i can knock up
--- Quote ---
>
> ====================
>
> Channels - TX/RX Freq (Freq 2) same as ZS2.
> I assume I can scan BM and TGIF by simply scanning two
different channels. One works with OS1 (freq 1) while the other
would be with ZS2 (freq 2).
>
> Contacts - Added the TGIF contacts. For example: Name:
"TGIF-110", "Group Call" and Call ID: "110"
>
> Scan List - Added the "TGIF-110" to the same scan list
>
> CC - Color Code 1 (same as in ZS2)
>
> TS - Time Slot 1
>
> RX Group List - Added the "TGIF-110" to the RX Group List
>
> Zone - Added "TGIF-110" to the "Zone Members"
>
> If someone can correct what I am doing wrong for just one TG
then I can handle the others. I compared my TGIF TGs to what I
configured for the OS1-BM as I got that one right. I must be
missing something VERY basic (sigh).
>
--- End Quote ---
sounds right
I scan 3 hot spots here 1 TGIF, 2 BM, 3 private server
main thing is they are separate frequencies so they don't bridge
#Post#: 1639--------------------------------------------------
Re: HYTERA MD-782 + ZUMSpot + TGIF ... questions
DIR By: W4AFK
Date: August 12, 2019, 2:04 am
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Thanks for the feedback. I now know it's something with the
Hytera radio as I programmed the CPS of my AnyTone 878 and it
works with the ZUMSpot and TGIF.
When I get back from work on Monday I will go over my Hytera CP
once again. I must have missed something as the AnyTone works.
This also means that the ZUMSpot is ok :-)
#Post#: 1642--------------------------------------------------
Re: HYTERA MD-782 + ZUMSpot + TGIF ... questions
DIR By: W4AFK
Date: August 12, 2019, 11:54 pm
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"No Joy" ... I don't get it. The Hytera MD-782 works just fine
through my OpenSpot V1 on BM but doesn't want to trigger the
ZUMSpot which is on TGIF. My AnyTone 878 works just fine on TGIF
31665 so I know that the ZUMSPot is setup properly
I also know that the MD782 is transmitting as I can hear it and
see my info on my AnyTone 878 handheld that's on the same
channel. But the ZUMSpot doesn't trip. This points to a
configuration problem with the MD782 but I am dumbfounded.
On the MD-782 I have TG "31665" in my contact list (Group Call),
the right channel/frequency (simplex confirmed), CC1, TS2 (also
tried TS1), ScanList, RX List, my ID is right (works with the
OS1), etc. Why does it work on the BM net via the OpenSpot V1
and not via this ZUMSpot???
Grrr ,,, it will more than like be something simple BUT I need
to find it
Any Hytera MD-782 users out there???
#Post#: 1683--------------------------------------------------
Re: HYTERA MD-782 + ZUMSpot + TGIF ... SOLVED
DIR By: W4AFK
Date: August 18, 2019, 10:57 pm
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As I suspected, the problem was between both of my ears :-)
I had forgotten one parameter in the Hytera: To add the TGIF
channels to the Hytera's "ScanList". The result is that it would
RECEIVE and transmit BUT it was ignored by the ZUMSpot until I
added the channels to the ScanList.
What got me sidetracked was that the radio would receive TGIF.
It's simpler with the AnyTone as their CPS is more geared toward
hams. The Hytera CPS is closer linked to the Motorola CPS which
is full of "surprises".
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