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       #Post#: 4570--------------------------------------------------
       Recent TGIF changes and Pi-Star
   DIR By: N1HRB
       Date: July 3, 2021, 7:49 pm
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       I had my hotspot programmed for both TGIF and BM and it was
       working beautifully through the DMR Gateway.  TGIF recently made
       some changes and made the popular TGIF TG31665 "secure".  In
       order to get on the secure TG I was required to change my
       Pi-Star/Configuration/Expert MMDVM Host settings in the DMR
       Network box to "TGIF.NETWORK" and enter my TGIF Password.  When
       I applied the changes I lost all the previous BM programming and
       was no longer able to use my hotspot.  Fortunately, I made a
       backup copy of my original Pi-Star SD chip and was able to get
       back on with my DMR Master showing both TGIF and BM networks.
       BM is now working and I'm not sure about the TGIF network.  I DO
       know my callsign does not appear on the TGIF.Network Monitor.
       Bummer!  I really liked that TG.  With the NEW TGIF changes, is
       there a way to keep my original dual network programming while
       being able to log into the secure TG31665 so that I may enjoy
       the TGIF 31665  again??
       #Post#: 4571--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Recent TGIF changes and Pi-Star
   DIR By: WB3IHY
       Date: July 3, 2021, 10:19 pm
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       --- Quote from: N1HRB link ---
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       > I had my hotspot programmed for both TGIF and BM and it was
       working beautifully through the DMR Gateway.
       --- End Quote ---
       Through the DMR Gateway.  There's the clue.
       --- Quote from: N1HRB link ---
       >
       > TGIF recently made some changes and made the popular TGIF
       TG31665 "secure".  In order to get on the secure TG I was
       required to change my Pi-Star/Configuration/Expert MMDVM Host
       settings
       --- End Quote ---
       And there's the problem.  You were using the Gateway, so the
       change(s) you need to make should be made in the
       Pi-Star/Configuration/Expert/DMR GW settings, not in the MMDVM
       area.  You basically told MMDVMHOST to stop talking to/using the
       Gateway and start talking just to TGIF.
       --- Quote from: N1HRB link ---
       > With the NEW TGIF changes, is there a way to keep my original
       dual network programming while being able to log into the secure
       TG31665 so that I may enjoy the TGIF 31665  again??
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes, and very easily in fact.  Go into the
       Pi-Star/Configuration/Expert/DMR GW settings, look for the
       Password=passw0rd line under the stanza for the TGIF network,
       and change passw0rd to the secure password you were given.
       Apply changes.  Done.
       73,
       Joe, WB3IHY
       #Post#: 4573--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Recent TGIF changes and Pi-Star
   DIR By: N1HRB
       Date: July 4, 2021, 6:01 pm
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       I tried that and it didn't work.  I'm wondering if my problems
       are associated with this new post:
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       Before, my TGIF network wasn't working and NOW, both TGIF and BM
       are not working.  My Pi-Star Dashboard displays my key up but,
       neither TGIF.Network "Last Heard" and BM, "Last Heard" shows my
       key up sop I'm not connecting with either.  In other words, my
       hotspot is dead. :'(
       #Post#: 4574--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Recent TGIF changes and Pi-Star
   DIR By: WB3IHY
       Date: July 4, 2021, 6:53 pm
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       Did you try that on the original card or the backup one? If the
       former, did you remember to set the mmdvmhost setting(s) that
       you changed back to what they were? Or, even better/easier:
       Restore from a Pi-Star backup (you do those in addition to the
       rpi-clones, right?  ;) )?
       As far as the bugs mentioned in that post, I can assure you that
       the latest mmdvmhost communicates just fine with Phil's modified
       Gateway.  I have two hotspots both running 4.1.5 with his
       Gateway as proof of that.  So I'm inclined to believe that it's
       not your binaries but, rather, something in one of your config
       files to blame.
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