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       #Post#: 2739--------------------------------------------------
       Talk Group number change
   DIR By: IZ6FGP
       Date: April 12, 2020, 5:54 pm
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       Hi Team, i read in the list of your Talk Groups that you used
       TG999 for Italy, i would like to ask you if it is possible to
       change it to TG222 the Group is used as National Talk Group in
       Italy, it would be a nice thing to be able to use the same.
       Thanks and 73's
       Mario IZ6FGP
       #Post#: 2741--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Talk Group number change
   DIR By: WB3IHY
       Date: April 12, 2020, 7:14 pm
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       Hi Mario.  I'm not an admin on the network, but I'd offer two
       points of information.
       First, I assume by "the Group is used as a National Talk Group
       in Italy" you mean that it is used on Brandmeister for that
       purpose.  We are TGIF, not Brandmeister.  Our talkgroup layout
       does not necessarily match theirs (or have to, for that matter).
       But, more importantly, TG222 on our network is already in use by
       the CERT-SPAIN group.  So, changing it at this point might
       be...problematic?
       But, as I said, I'm not an admin.  Perhaps one of them should
       weigh in.
       73,
       Joe, WBIHY
       #Post#: 2744--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Talk Group number change
   DIR By: IZ6FGP
       Date: April 12, 2020, 9:28 pm
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       Thanks Joe for your answers, i had seen that Group 222 is also
       used in Spain "so another problem". We are not Brandmeister but
       IT-DMR we are the largest Italian Network with over 120
       Repeaters covering all of Italy we are only an Italian Network.
       Since we started in Nov.2013 we have always used the TG222
       because it is the MCC numbering reserved by the ITU for Italy,
       Brandmeister was not born. We recently made an agreement with
       two Italian groups to share the national TG222 for the
       particular moment (COVID-19). We also hear our traffic on the
       TGIF Network on the TG999, which makes us happy but for
       uniformity and simplicity of the users i made this request. We
       do not use many Talk Groups in our Network (national and
       regionals only) and we would not like to create others. 73's
       Mario IZ6FGP
       #Post#: 2745--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Talk Group number change
   DIR By: robertbretzman
       Date: April 13, 2020, 12:54 am
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       Mario, I can understand your frustration. We cannot control any
       bridging done by the individual talk groups. The admins of the
       talk groups are responsible for any bridging from their talk
       group. I would suggest if you think a change to your situation
       would be in the best interest of of both talk groups that you
       contact the Admin of the Cert Spain talk group. The Admin is
       EA1HNC and his email is on their wiki page. I hope you can work
       this out as this is out of our hands. We give the talk group
       Admins complete control of their talk groups.
       73
       Robert
       K4WZV
       TGIF Admin
       #Post#: 2746--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Talk Group number change
   DIR By: IZ6FGP
       Date: April 13, 2020, 6:19 am
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       Thanks Robert i thought for the management of the groups there
       was a more centralized coordination, i will move as you
       recommended and thanks for the info.
       73'
       Mario IZ6FGP
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