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Zylcious Fight
By: matias371 Date: January 19, 2015, 11:12 pm
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By Tears request, I will explain the way that I used to beat
that beast.
First stage of Zylcious you have to kill him with 0 MP. This
fight could be annoying and sometimes he disappear from your
screen and regenerates a lot. I highly recommend move away your
camera from settings, so you can see a wide screen of the fight
scene and try to stop his regen. If you kill him and no 0 MP, he
comes back, and it will be harder, and try to bring him to 0 MP
will be impossible, so if this happen maybe it is better reload
from first.
Second part is a very good and enjoyable fight against Death
Knights, I like it!!
Then Zylcious become a Demon, mmm this time I don't like because
he is a lot of time invulnerable and sometimes even bug, a lot
of times he disappear and never comes back and I stay stuck, so
reload.
Don't forget to steal Doomsday to Uummut.
Final Dragon stage:
Firstable you will need to burn his mana, so this way stop his
HP regen, so you need items like Mana Rod, Nagaeca and Combat
King - Magic Torment. But the Dragon can steal this items so you
need to have more than one Mana Rod, this is the key to burns
his MP, 1% means that at least after 100 hits his mana will be
0, but you can do it more quickly with others items (Winter's
Tear, Nagaeca, etc).
Mana Rod on Fradz so he has normally the best attack speed and
optional Winter's Tear on Galeoth.
Second, I highly recommend have your alternative items very
organized in your boxes, so when dragon steal you a main item
you can quickly replace with another so good. Never put an item
on ground, always manage them into boxes or after few seconds it
will disappear.
Use poison sting at start of fight, 10k damage per second its
always welcome.
Get a lot of Combat King is another key, magic damage on
Galeoth, 5/5 resurrection and magic resistance on your heros.
Sometimes your heros will be "naked" by his steal, so at least
you need something to counter that.
[spoiler]
Yea you will need a lot of Honor Points at this stage (this is
why I never will get End of an Era item, I spend a lot of time
in others chapters to get them). But even without this item I
could also beat Xvareon, so don't worry.
[/spoiler]
If you see a decreasing numbers in your hero (3! 2! 1!), just
run!, if you stay there, your hero will be insta-killed.
At the stage of bombs, try to get far away from them and leave
just Galoth to kill them, meanwhile press hold button on Phodom
and Fradz.
If you hit the Dragon and his HP don't change, don't lose your
time it is his illusion and you need to keep your spells for
real Dragon.
At the stage of infernos I tried to avoid, stunning them and
running out. That ones are very dangerous.
Dragon can invoke sometimes a blue summons (Shadow Elementals)
that steal your mana and so Zylcious will recover his MP, so try
to kill them so quickly and prepare Nagaeca or hit with Mana Rod
Zylcious for a new fast burn of his mana gain.
Sometimes he cast a skulls that chasing you, my strategy against
them was use Heaven's Bless (health cast of Phodom) on one hero,
so he could die and nothing happen, meanwhile other two are
getting away from skulls. Remember to turn on mana shield of
Galeoth' Set every time he dies. Remember that you can use
Heaven's Ring invulnerability (so Aero) even inside of your
boxes.
Don't forget that you could benefit from your auras in your
boxes, I have special items like Zocmo's Gloves and boots (I
can't do the complete set, lack of Gem at ch 3), doom's helmet,
you can active Horn of Balgaron.
If you lose much time the ground will become green and you will
be surely dead, because his HP regen will be back even with no
mana, so try always to avoid fight in this terrain. Also this
terrain slow your movement speed.
And my finally highly recommend is have Impale (3rd Galeoth's
spell book that you get at ch 7) improved with Colossal Damage.
You can take advantage of 5% of his HP, it is a lot of damage.
Even sometimes you can get more than the 600k damage of that 5%,
I got 800k in my 1st hit, and 1 million in 2nd hit.
Try to get a lot of saved games, for example I saved every time
that I can take away a lot of his HP, and the name of saved
files contain what happen during fight. For example: "Omega
Set_Out" with this name, I'm 99% surely that I will reload maybe
a previous different saved file next time, because try without
this item is suicide, HP of Galoth is not prepared to such
voltage.
[spoiler]
The reward of that quest, in my opinion is the best of entire
campaign, there's nothing more powerful than Zylcious' Staff!
[/spoiler]
This way I beat Epic Quest, but if someone knows more tips, you
could improve this thread. I just played one time on last 2.1c
version (a lot in previous). This last time that I face this
quest, I enjoyed it a lot, it was so challenge and I have to
admit, I reload a lot of times that fight.
#Post#: 14360--------------------------------------------------
Re: Zylcious Fight
By: Tears Date: January 20, 2015, 11:37 am
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Now I remember. I played on 2.1b and lost all my spell booka and
espers in chapter 9 and 10. Yeah, impale is for sure pretty
useful. If maegca ignores magic resistance / armor then it is
also another useful item. 2 maegca deal 2 percent of hp every
30s, even stronger than impale. Unfortunately that is not how it
works currently.
I cannot do much damage to Zyl, not enough for his imba regen. I
dont know if it is a bug in 2.1b or not, didnt try it in 2.1c.
Can you tell us your items set up for this fight?
#Post#: 14365--------------------------------------------------
Re: Zylcious Fight
By: matias371 Date: January 20, 2015, 10:39 pm
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Yes I had to play ch 9 another time to recover spells, yea, I'm
a perfectionist person, so I always want to get everything and I
can't see that spell in your inventory at:
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I know, it is just a play to get resources and then give up, so
no problem.
Tears our play style is so different, I think that your strategy
seems kind like Hamza play. I respect your built and when I saw
your heroes built I thought in change one item of basic attack
by magic damage on Galeoth. Meanwhile your built has a lot of
magic damage, I try to get a survival and a high basic attack
damage on my heroes, that is my focus in my built. When I showed
my heroes in that post, I got a lot of bonus stats by finish
previously campaign in Extreme mode, and bonus from a lot of
items, so my heroes can't be compared with your heroes.
Basically my item built to beat Zylcious only differ with I
showed at that threat on Ice Diamond changed by Greatest Magic
Ball and Nether Staff by Winter's Tear. Galeoth's basic damage
is close to 16k and his magic damage is 18k.
Magaeca do 100k damage and you could get 2. So you can steal
200k every 30 secs, so after 90 secs you do same damage of
Impale Spell Book (it has 300 secs of cd and hit him by 600k
plus Galeoth magic damage). Damage of Magaeca is so nice and I
knew that I can do it, but I didn't want to carry much items
like that, because a lot of damage but no survival, nor plus
stats, armor, regen, HP and neither MP. I had Mana Rod and
Nagaeca and to me was enough, I didn't want to spend more slots
in items like that. Whit this built I can send my heroes to
fight face to face and I don't need stuns, just pay attention
when enemy will cast something special, so my damage is constant
and my basic attack is so high that I can get a lot of his HP.
After mana depleted I could change Nagaeca by Magaeca, but I
didn't remember and my main fear was that he got mana again. My
fight was like 15 mins, so I could hit impale 3 times (near to 2
million of his HP).
I can see that your problem not was lack of strategy, so you are
requesting for the most super imba bimba combo that I can
imagine. I didn't do next advice during fight but you can talk
me what you think about this (your heroes spells built that you
showed in last threat can do this combo):
Max scissor stab (-25 armor), hit Zylcious 5 times with Cripple
Triple Axe (if your luck is above of 30, just use evil eyes to
get that item from lucky box, yea you will lost Destiny :/, but
Doomsday is even better), I don't know why CT Axe item is bug,
because if you hit 6 times, the armor effect disappear. Ok
continue, you can have Doom Helmet inside of your boxes (if you
don't see the effect on Dragon, just change the item to another
box), ok until know, Dragon could have -60 armor, now you can
cast Frozen Fang (-20 armor by 5 secs), so your enemy has -80
armor (yea so smooth like a Pie), Frozen Fang has a delay, so
cast it first and then cast Frozen Paradise (basic attack will
be doubled), immediately finish with Fradz's Teleport Strike. I
imagined this combo today, so tell me if you think that combo
would work.
BTW I never put Headbutt spell on Phodom, which could damage by
1% of enemy HP, Phodom could lost 10% of his HP, but at this
stage it doesn't matter, only insta-kill cast can affect a hero
with more than 30k HP. This spell looks pretty interesting.
I have to confess that I didn't know that he could regen above
green ground. I just hit him every second that I could.
Best luck with that beast.
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Re: Zylcious Fight
By: angky5p Date: January 21, 2015, 3:57 am
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I dont have spell book so i just beat him to death :D
Relatively fast with galeoth except the green ball thing that
can pierce mana shield
Be careful of that
#Post#: 14377--------------------------------------------------
Re: Zylcious Fight
By: Tears Date: January 21, 2015, 10:28 am
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Actually what I shown on Show Your Heroes threat is my 1st play
through. I was accumulating money for higher difficult. My 2nd
play through I played on Extreme. I know that Winter Tear is a
nice item but I don't have enough luck point in my 2nd play
through, I got a Behearlm (dont remember its name) and sold it.
On second play through, I used lots of 100% HP regen and all my
character all have about 1k5 - 3k hp regen, so I have no problem
with survival at all. My damage is not also a problem too,
because both my physical damage and magic damage are high (I
replaced Sunrise Set and Holgo with 2 greatest magic ball, I'm
playing on Extreme anyway :) . Maybe in 2.1b the hp regen of
Zylcious is really imba? He heals like thoudsands hp / sec, not
12-24k/sec as Aero say. Anyway, if everything is OK, I'll go
streaming in Hardcore mode. I finished Extreme mode anyway, and
Universe Orb is not that useful imo, so it's OK to start a new
game without it. I'm too lazy to replay chapter 10 and kill and
that Monstrosity again ~~ .
And yeah, Headbutt looks promising, but as I remember it's
bugged or just affect a specific group. If it doesn't I'll try
it next time, definitely.
There's still one thing that bugs me, Why Nagaeca deals exactly
100k MP but Magaeca doesn't deal 100k HP? Is this a bug? Or it's
intended? Poision Sting too, when I use it on Uummut, it deals
only about 3k / sec, didn't try on Zylcious. Aero, can you
confirm this? Will these items ignore armor and resistance or
not?
#Post#: 14383--------------------------------------------------
Re: Zylcious Fight
By: Aeroblyctos Date: January 22, 2015, 1:08 pm
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Anyone have killed Super Uummut?
[quote]There's still one thing that bugs me, Why Nagaeca deals
exactly 100k MP but Magaeca doesn't deal 100k HP[/quote]
Will fix it. I make that + Poison Sting pure damage.
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Re: Zylcious Fight
By: Tears Date: January 23, 2015, 1:21 am
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Uummut is just far more easier than Zyl last phase, I can always
kill him in Extreme mode, 1st and 2nd time and achieve a heroic
achievement. Just let Hekkhan alive and it's ok, Hekkhan has a
super healing spell, it would keep the fight from being ended.
The most deadly thing about Uummut is his basic attack release
lots of waves, but since all of my heroes have at least 1k5 hp
regen, he can't even make a scratch to my heroes. The only thing
we have to watch out is his massive waves skill, when he stands
still, just run to his back and everything will be OK, if you
cannot do this due to his stun or Hekkhan's stun, just cast a
resurrection spell on the heroes who are still in front of him.
The fight will last long because he has lots of HP and magic
resistance, it took me about more than 40 minutes but it's just
easier than Zylcious since he doesn't have any healing spell.
#Post#: 14386--------------------------------------------------
Re: Zylcious Fight
By: Aeroblyctos Date: January 23, 2015, 4:03 am
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40 min...? What. What! WHAT!?
#Post#: 14387--------------------------------------------------
Re: Zylcious Fight
By: Tears Date: January 23, 2015, 4:47 am
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What? Is it too long, or too short? I killed him on Extreme
(2.1b).
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Re: Zylcious Fight
By: Aeroblyctos Date: January 23, 2015, 5:07 am
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That's pretty long battle. 40 min I mean. I wonder if I have
ever fought any boss in any game that long.
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