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#Post#: 13276--------------------------------------------------
In need of total unification
By: TrueZozi Date: June 6, 2013, 2:32 pm
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I read the latest news of a site and think that this project is
in need of unification. Unification of people who supported the
project for the whole period from the start till now. Sad about
Aero's motivation gap. Sad about Doomlord's decision. About the
people's inactivity - so much downloads, so much comments in
hive - and no support in this "dark" times (I don't mean a
donation only, some valuable ideas are needed too I suppose).
My view is that this project is not ready to fully change in a
cost-efficient way as Aero wants - for so much time it was a
free and only the motivation was moving it forward. It is going
to become donate-able only gradually, and some time is needed
for sure. The idea about free main plot and payable optionals is
great for it to meet the needs of all users and creator. Some
not very active users would found all prior news only after a
while. Some of them could decide to donate, but only if veterans
of the forum like Doomlord would continue their helpful topics
and the project would be slowly moving forward. Required amounts
could be obtained only after the relationship users-creator
about donations would be something like a normal thing, not like
it is now.
Therefore I mean that if the forum due to nothing new would die
slowly and the campaign progress would stop in a nearest future,
when the main plot in Ch.10 would come to its end - there would
be a fail in reaching of the aims. For sure no development of
the project and a forum (it could be slow, really slow, but it
is for sure vital) would lead to no donations at all.
Sorry for my poor english, but I still hope that my view is
clear.
#Post#: 13278--------------------------------------------------
Re: In need of total unification
By: Shinokyofu Date: June 6, 2013, 5:35 pm
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Ha...Thanks for making the thread Zozi. Sadly it's not something
that can be easily done. A unification that is :-\.
We had already a discussion about the forum's inactivitty. It
was such a big drama...And now we're trying to do something
about the campaign itself. Not something easy I tell you ::).
[quote author=TrueZozi link=topic=1419.msg13276#msg13276
date=1370547135]
Sorry for my poor english, but I still hope that my view is
clear.
[/quote]
As clear as water, but and then...? What I mean is, you said
what should be done. But how will it be done? How can we
"unificate" as you said?
#Post#: 13284--------------------------------------------------
Re: In need of total unification
By: Aeroblyctos Date: June 7, 2013, 12:30 am
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The campaign will always be free. About Doomlord he should've
always knew that I won't never give the strings from my arms to
others. That is simply my way to do the campaign; I will do the
campaign alone, but you guys can help me. He's there once again
making things to look so dramatic, but we love drama, don't we?
I can't do anything about the inactivity. That's up to you guys.
Killa will do another walkthrough about the campaign, maybe that
will help. Last one gained 40,000 viewers.
#Post#: 13287--------------------------------------------------
Re: In need of total unification
By: doomlord Date: June 7, 2013, 12:50 am
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I don't recall making any recent drama. I just stated the facts
but you know what? I had had enough and I stopped caring. That
is that.
The shitloads of negative attitude and unreasonable
discrimination should have driven me away months ago. I was weak
back then and feared abandonment. However, with the current
unfold of events, we part ways from now on. And I leave with a
smile knowing that I finally made a right choice.
#Post#: 13295--------------------------------------------------
Re: In need of total unification
By: Flecky Date: June 7, 2013, 3:06 am
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The nostalgic chat died already. Forum statistics have been
dying over time. Eventually the forum will die too, unless a
miraculous rich person starts donating 50$s each week.
Looking at TCO is like looking at the economic cycles; it starts
from a fixed scratch, builds up over time, eventually reaching
its peak. Then it crashes. Welcome to real life, no game lasts
forever with high popularity, for as long as the evolution of
technology goes forward.
It is typical for a human being to mourn after downs and deaths
and all, but what is not healthy is to mourn forever.
#Post#: 13296--------------------------------------------------
Re: In need of total unification
By: Aeroblyctos Date: June 7, 2013, 3:11 am
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Flecky, you're right.
But there is a slight chance that another golden age happens if
the book is a success. It could bring a lot of attention. Why?
Because the campaign tells more about Oelivert. If one has read
the book and desperately wants more information, he could come
here.
#Post#: 13299--------------------------------------------------
Re: In need of total unification
By: TrueZozi Date: June 7, 2013, 3:28 am
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Mu idea was about some replenish of the community, maybe
something that would be posted by Aero in Hive comments, that
would redirect people from hiveworkshop to tcocampaign.com. And
about success of the book - for sure it would be! But also I do
not see a direct link between the book and
inputed-in-wc3-campaign - I mean - I read the book and liked it,
but I've never used to play wc3. And I think that it relates to
the vast majority :o
The campaign itself needs some - again let it be slooooow very
very sloooow - but a progress. Something like as if current work
on some new feature would take about a week or two - without a
donation this feature would take unknown period, but with
progress updates - for the community to understand that the
project is not dead.
#Post#: 13301--------------------------------------------------
Re: In need of total unification
By: Flecky Date: June 7, 2013, 4:18 am
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[quote author=Aeroblyctos link=topic=1419.msg13296#msg13296
date=1370592695]
But there is a slight chance that another golden age happens if
the book is a success. It could bring a lot of
attention.[/quote]
Hopefully, yes, as otherwise there'll be more of these periods
when suddenly activity raises sky-high by 200-300% and the next
month it crashes devastatingly back to start. Kinda like TCO was
some sort of a season-bound event.
#Post#: 13302--------------------------------------------------
Re: In need of total unification
By: TrueZozi Date: June 7, 2013, 4:50 am
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To prove my words about donation-to-be-sufficient period just
look to the donations list of Hive with it's constant updates -
dunno if it is what hive team wants.
HTML http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/apps.php?p=accounts
HTML http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/apps.php?p=accounts
Hive is an old project, but for sure TCO is one of the
headliners there. Maybe some connection with hive could attract
more attention - something like making a TCO a hosted project on
the main page (as like they do it already for other much more
simple maps).
#Post#: 13304--------------------------------------------------
Re: In need of total unification
By: Aeroblyctos Date: June 7, 2013, 5:01 am
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[quote author=Flecky link=topic=1419.msg13301#msg13301
date=1370596695]
[quote author=Aeroblyctos link=topic=1419.msg13296#msg13296
date=1370592695]
But there is a slight chance that another golden age happens if
the book is a success. It could bring a lot of
attention.[/quote]
Hopefully, yes, as otherwise there'll be more of these periods
when suddenly activity raises sky-high by 200-300% and the next
month it crashes devastatingly back to start. Kinda like TCO was
some sort of a season-bound event.
[/quote]
Haha, indeed.
[quote author=TrueZozi link=topic=1419.msg13302#msg13302
date=1370598655]
To prove my words about donation-to-be-sufficient period just
look to the donations list of Hive with it's constant updates -
dunno if it is what hive team wants.
HTML http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/apps.php?p=accounts
HTML http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/apps.php?p=accounts
Hive is an old project, but for sure TCO is one of the
headliners there. Maybe some connection with hive could attract
more attention - something like making a TCO a hosted project on
the main page (as like they do it already for other much more
simple maps).
[/quote]
TCO is already a hosted project there.
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