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#Post#: 9761--------------------------------------------------
How can I improve this spell?
By: doomlord Date: July 20, 2012, 7:46 pm
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I am currently doing this ability because Aero requested me to
create a new Ice Spell 2 (Spell Book spell) but I'm currently
out of ideas on how to improve this ability further and
therefore I need your help. The test map has been attached to
this post.
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Ice Wall
Conjures up an impassable Ice Wall at the target location. The
bone-chilling cold of the wall heavily slows enemies around it.
After X seconds the wall will explode creating multiple frost
explosions that damage nearby enemy units for Y damage.
[list]
[li]UPGRADE #1: FREEZING BLAST: Add a freezing effect to the
frost explosions that freezes nearby enemies for Z seconds.[/li]
[li]UPGRADE #2: SHATTERING FROST: Add an instant-kill effect to
the frost explosions that shatter nearby enemies (excluding
bosses) with hit points less than 40% max HP.[/li]
[/list]
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#Post#: 9767--------------------------------------------------
Re: How can I improve this spell?
By: doomlord Date: July 21, 2012, 7:08 pm
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I just finished creating a twisted version of the spell. Now we
have here an X-shaped wall that grows rapidly rather than
appearing instantly.
#Post#: 9779--------------------------------------------------
Re: How can I improve this spell?
By: Shinokyofu Date: July 23, 2012, 5:08 pm
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Hey, nice spell there, but i think it's different from a
wall...i mean, a X shaped thing that slows enemies and does
damage, it sounds more like a trap to me. Enemies can't go
through it, so it's a wall...i don't think so.
Oh another thing, according to myself, attacks shouldn't be
possible if there's a wall in the middle of the "attackers". I'm
poiting this out cause i could attack a enemie through the
wall(melee attack).
#Post#: 9782--------------------------------------------------
Re: How can I improve this spell?
By: doomlord Date: July 24, 2012, 1:56 am
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[quote author=Shinokyofu link=topic=1197.msg9779#msg9779
date=1343081338]
Oh another thing, according to myself, attacks shouldn't be
possible if there's a wall in the middle of the "attackers". I'm
poiting this out cause i could attack a enemie through the
wall(melee attack).
[/quote]
Can you provide a screenshot? I can't recreate the bug during
testing.
So here is a new version of the spell with better eye candy and
spell upgrades. You can purchase upgrades and see them in
action!
#Post#: 9786--------------------------------------------------
Re: How can I improve this spell?
By: Flecky Date: July 26, 2012, 3:34 pm
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Well... I don't see why this couldn't be used, but seriously:
A wall is a wall.
A wall explodes? Under certain conditions, makes some sense. A
wall explodes because it's the most important factor it has? Ok,
that's logical...
Perhaps it's just the name that is wrong; Ice Wave or something
similar would still fit with both the effect and the model. But
if the name "Ice Wall" is a necessity... Well, there are other
options for a game to be unique other than its content being
illusional compared to the others.
There's also the known bug that if you create a new "wall" (ha
ha), the previous wall won't time its exploding right. Of
course, with a cooldown to the spell it's fixed, so no issues on
the technical side. Now just to convince why a meat shield
shouldn't be a meat shield.
#Post#: 9787--------------------------------------------------
Re: How can I improve this spell?
By: Shinokyofu Date: July 26, 2012, 7:49 pm
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[quote author=Flecky link=topic=1197.msg9786#msg9786
date=1343334884]
A wall is a wall.
A wall explodes? Under certain conditions, makes some sense. A
wall explodes because it's the most important factor it has? Ok,
that's logical...
Perhaps it's just the name that is wrong; Ice Wave or something
similar would still fit with both the effect and the model. But
if the name "Ice Wall" is a necessity... Well, there are other
options for a game to be unique other than its content being
illusional compared to the others.
[/quote]
I agree...
[quote author=Flecky link=topic=1197.msg9786#msg9786
date=1343334884]
Now just to convince why a meat shield shouldn't be a meat
shield.
[/quote]
Eh...? :P
Oh yeah, Doom i tried out the bug again but it hasn't happened,
i'll try again another time.
#Post#: 9792--------------------------------------------------
Re: How can I improve this spell?
By: Aeroblyctos Date: July 27, 2012, 8:41 am
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So we made some changes with Doomlord and we're quiet happy.
Doomlord will later show us things we changed.
The name could be changed. Any ideas, guys?
#Post#: 9794--------------------------------------------------
Re: How can I improve this spell?
By: Flecky Date: July 27, 2012, 1:33 pm
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[quote author=Aeroblyctos link=topic=1197.msg9792#msg9792
date=1343396487]
So we made some changes with Doomlord and we're quiet happy.
Doomlord will later show us things we changed.[/quote]
Please let a wall be a wall, please let a wall be a wall...
[quote author=Aeroblyctos link=topic=1197.msg9792#msg9792
date=1343396487]The name could be changed. Any ideas,
guys?[/quote]
Ice Wave
Glacial Surge
Commotive Shiver
...
#Post#: 9796--------------------------------------------------
Re: How can I improve this spell?
By: doomlord Date: July 27, 2012, 5:56 pm
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[quote author=Aeroblyctos link=topic=1197.msg9792#msg9792
date=1343396487]
So we made some changes with Doomlord and we're quiet happy.
Doomlord will later show us things we changed.
The name could be changed. Any ideas, guys?
[/quote]
[quote author=Flecky link=topic=1197.msg9794#msg9794
date=1343414017]
Please let a wall be a wall, please let a wall be a wall...
[/quote]
Okay here is the changed spell. And sorry Flecky but it is still
not a true wall :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Test map attached.
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GLACIAL SURGE
Summons a surge of Glacial Energy at the target location that
rapidly expands in an X-shaped formation, creating impassable
blocks of solid ice. During its growth units unfortunate enough
to be on the path will be frozen for 3 seconds. After 5 seconds
the wall containing the frost energy will explode creating
multiple explosions that damage nearby enemies units for 100
damage. If any of the wall's branch encounter unpathable terrain
while growing, it will stop.
[list]
[li]UPGRADE #1: CHILLING BLAST: Damage is increased by 50% and
slows enemies by 50% for 5 seconds afterwards.[/li]
[li]UPGRADE #2: GREATER ICE WALL: The wall stays 5 second longer
and slows nearby enemies by 50% during its duration.[/li]
[/list]
#Post#: 9799--------------------------------------------------
Re: How can I improve this spell?
By: Flecky Date: July 28, 2012, 1:34 pm
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[quote author=Doomlord link=topic=1197.msg9796#msg9796
date=1343429795]
GLACIAL SURGE
If any of the wall's branch encounter unpathable terrain while
growing, it will stop.[/quote]
Definitely Aero's part right over there.
With the name changed, it fits more better now. Still, a (real)
wall spell would be kudos to you.
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