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#Post#: 6947--------------------------------------------------
Re: Competition #36
By: doomlord Date: February 7, 2012, 5:11 pm
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Okay guys I have fixed the Berserk Combat King. It works well
now and Aero plans to re-introduce it in version 1.7. Just want
to let you guys know that.
I will judge this competition tomorrow. And for people who don't
understand why I'm allowed to judge instead of Aero, check from
this post
HTML http://www.tcocampaign.com/index.php?topic=1052.msg6933#new<br
/>onwards.
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Re: Competition #36
By: Aeroblyctos Date: February 8, 2012, 3:57 pm
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Very nice ideas here.
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Re: Competition #36
By: doomlord Date: February 9, 2012, 6:52 am
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Okay everybody this is the "experimental" judge speaking.
Although Berserk Combat King has been fixed Aero said that he
still welcomes new ideas from the members and due to some events
I will judge this competition and Aero will decide whether I'm a
good judge or not. So if he say that I'm not then this post will
be deleted and he will judge this himself sometimes later. One
more thing, TCO currently doesn't have any Critical Strike
System so ideas involving critical strike will be marked as
(Can't be made)
So we have 2 entries from Isofruit, 10 entries (duh) from Black,
4 entries from noal and 3 entries from Xavorn (previously known
as DD Canada). We have a total of 19 entries, which forces me to
only give the score of some entries and judge them briefly. Okay
now on to the judging !
[list type=decimal]
[li]Isofruit
[list]
[li]Bloodthirsty (Can't be made): This ability has a lot of
potential in it. The idea seems nice and the presentation is
good but the icon is a bit inapproriate. This ability is weak in
the beginning but very strong in the end when characters have
ultra-high attack speed and can crit continuously. Score:
3/5[/li]
[li]Vengeful (Can't be made): This ability has a lot of
potential in it too. The presentation and icon are fine but the
ability seems to only mirror the first ability. The idea of
retaliating with a critical strike is good but I think you can
utilise it in another way. Score: 2.5/5[/li]
[/list][/li]
[li]Blackdoom59
[list]
[li]Anger: This ability is good to say the least. The
presentation is well-made and your icon is okay. However a buff
stacking indefinitely is something that, if coupled with high
attack speed, will be way too imba. I do acknowledge that the
buff only last 5s according to your entry but with a high enough
attack speed, a character can stack about 5-6 buffs before
losing the first one. And this ability is also quite weak in the
beginning when the attack speed is still too low. Score:
2.5/5[/li]
[li]Damage Seeking and Killing Spree: Damage Seeking is weak in
the beginning when the attack speed is still too low but imba in
the end. Killing Spree can be utilized to imba levels with
Cleaving or AoE spells. Score: 2.5/5[/li]
[li]Chosen Strike and Blood Steal: For these 2 entries I'm
thinking about combining them and make them as a single ability
so there will be bonus points for you. Score: 3/5[/li]
[li]Ultimate Precision and Critical King (Can't be made): A bit
too imba if the character's attack speed or HP is high enough.
And Fradz can get higher HP than Phodom. Score: 2.5/5[/li]
[li]Heaven's Enhancement: This ability is great but it seems to
drift off from the concept of physical Combat King. This is one
of my favorite ideas in this competition. Score: 3/5[/li]
[li]Magic Weapon: This ability is simple, creative and
effective. And I have already made something like this for Aero
and he said that he will use this for a new passive for Galeoth.
But there is no special or outstanding feature in this ability.
Score: 4/5[/li]
[li]Cleaving Attacker: The Blizzard-made ability Cleaving Attack
with a different name. Score: 1/5 (Actually I would have given
this a 0/5 score)[/li][/list][/li]
[li]Noal
[list]
[li]Rampage: This ability is balanced only for later chapters
and not early chapters since no character can benefit from this
skill at first levels. One good thing is that I have already
made a spell quite similiar to this one. But your presentation
is only average so I will have to minus some of your mark.
Score: 3.5/5[/li]
[li]Holy Enhancement(both version): This ability seems to repeat
something already plenty in the campaign: Orb effect. Your
spells are only Orb Effects with triggered damage and nothing
special. Score: 2.5/5[/li]
[li]Bloodseeker: This ability is limited by the presentation and
the information given along with it. I don't really like this
idea much but I think it has some hidden potential. Score:
2/5[/li]
[/list][/li]
[li]Xavorn
[list]
[li]Edge of Sharpening: This ability is undoubtedly the finest
ability posted in the competition. Your presentation and icon
are perfect, your idea is very creative and balanced. But
unfortunately I think neither Aero nor I can do this because the
attack damage of a unit can't be handled in WE without some
additional JASS libraries which haven't been incorporated into
the campaign yet. I would have given this a perfect score if the
ability can be made. Score: 4/5[/li]
[li]Bandaging Holyness: This ability is really good considering
its simplicity and balance. It can also be made quite easily
which is another great thing. However it doesn't seem to fit the
physical CK theme of the competition.Score: 3.5/5[/li]
[li]Numbing Into Corruption: This ability is a good and creative
idea. It is actually a skill that I have never seen anywhere
before in any RPG. But it doesn't fit the physical CK theme of
the competition and so it loses mark. Score: 3/5[/li]
[/list]
Okay so we have 2 ideas that have the same score of 4/5. I will
choose Magic Weapon because it can be made and incorporated into
the campaign. So the winner is Blackdoom59. And I think Xavorn
deserves a honorable title as a co-victor. Congratulations to
both of you![/list]
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Re: Competition #36
By: doomlord Date: February 10, 2012, 3:18 am
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Aren't someone supposed to be kicking my butt ? Aero ? Xavorn ?
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Re: Competition #36
By: Aeroblyctos Date: February 10, 2012, 3:53 am
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I tried to do own critical system and I even asked help but
everyone told me it's better to use the basic Blizzard Critical
Strike. That is why I can't detect when it hits and that's why
many of the ideas cannot be made. Sad.
"Edge of Sharpening" this cannot be done I believe, but it's
good idea anyway.
Anyway, I read all the entries and wrote down all the
interesting ideas that will be eventually used for items and
abilities.
I think you did a good job with judging I didn't start to
compared how you did with each entry.
I think the judging is acceptable. What does others think?
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Re: Competition #36
By: DD Canada Date: February 10, 2012, 8:15 am
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Hello,
[quote author=Doomlord link=topic=1012.msg6962#msg6962
date=1328865513]
Aren't someone supposed to be kicking my butt?[/quote]
I don't know for that, but I'll do the scorchin'.
Aside from a few grammar mistakes, you actually forgot to judge
one category of lesser priority (and no, it ain't the
presentations, which you seem to have covered, though I don't
know by what degree). Even if it could've affected a maximum of
0.5 points towards either direction (+/-), it's crucial in neck
n' necks.
So hmm... Oh yes, so you chose Black as a winner because his
idea was doable, however, you could've gone with the averages as
well...
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Re: Competition #36
By: Aeroblyctos Date: February 10, 2012, 8:40 am
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[quote author=Xavorn link=topic=1012.msg6970#msg6970
date=1328883322] a few grammar mistakes, you actually forgot to
judge one category of lesser priority (and no, it ain't the
presentations, which you seem to have covered, though I don't
know by what degree). Even if it could've affected a maximum of
0.5 points towards either direction (+/-), it's crucial in neck
n' necks.[/quote]
So what is that category?
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Re: Competition #36
By: DD Canada Date: February 10, 2012, 2:37 pm
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Hello,
[quote author=Aeroblyctos link=topic=1012.msg6971#msg6971
date=1328884826]
So what is that category?[/quote]
Naming.
Is the name grammatically correct? Is it unique? Is it
acceptable and / or fitting?
Similar to titles in advertisements, they're to capture a
fellow's attention.
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Re: Competition #36
By: doomlord Date: February 10, 2012, 4:23 pm
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[quote]Aside from a few grammar mistakes, you actually forgot to
judge one category of lesser priority (and no, it ain't the
presentations, which you seem to have covered, though I don't
know by what degree). Even if it could've affected a maximum of
0.5 points towards either direction (+/-), it's crucial in neck
n' necks.[/quote]
Grammar Mistakes: Yes. Forgetting to judge the entries' name:
No. I think that the names can be changed later. No big deal.
[quote]So hmm... Oh yes, so you chose Black as a winner because
his idea was doable, however, you could've gone with the
averages as well...
[/quote]
I have seen noal's Rampage before. It is the Fervor ability in
DotA. So the uniqueness is gone. The other 3.5/5 entry is
Bandaging Holyness by you which doesn't really fit the physical
CK theme so I can't choose it over Black's Magic Weapon.
Now I understand the excruciating pain of judging a single
competition so I think I will be more than happy to hand the
judging over to you. Just tell me if you want to.
#Post#: 6977--------------------------------------------------
Re: Competition #36
By: DD Canada Date: February 10, 2012, 11:51 pm
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Hello,
[quote author=Doomlord link=topic=1012.msg6976#msg6976
date=1328912629]
Forgetting to judge the entries' name: No. I think that the
names can be changed later. No big deal.[/quote]
But that's like saying "yeah, his idea might contain pitfalls,
but they can be changed later, no big deal". Yet, they're still
determined by points.
Of course the names can be changed later, but why intentionally
lessen its importance?
[quote author=Doomlord link=topic=1012.msg6976#msg6976
date=1328912629]I have seen noal's Rampage before. It is the
Fervor ability in DotA. So the uniqueness is gone. The other
3.5/5 entry is Bandaging Holyness by you which doesn't really
fit the physical CK theme so I can't choose it over Black's
Magic Weapon.[/quote]
Emm... Well I was actually talking about the average point
total.
Sum the points and divide them by the amount of entries of the
corresponding user.
[quote author=Doomlord link=topic=1012.msg6976#msg6976
date=1328912629]Now I understand the excruciating pain of
judging a single competition so I think I will be more than
happy to hand the judging over to you. Just tell me if you want
to.[/quote]
I'd have applied for that at the same time as you, if I had
wished to. But I didn't because I feel like competitions should
be judged by those who originally put it up, so if I was to
judge competitions, they should be created by me, not by Aero,
you, or anyone else.
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