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       Re: Nitrates
       By: Mazken Date: September 29, 2014, 8:06 am
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       thanks for all the help i will start keeping my log so i can
       establish a base line and work up a plan thanks  for all the
       help from everyone ill keep yall posted
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       Re: Nitrates
       By: Mazken Date: September 29, 2014, 1:41 pm
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       man  just finished the cyberaquarists nitrates video awesome
       info
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       Re: Nitrates
       By: mrk13p Date: September 29, 2014, 9:44 pm
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       yeah that guy has loads of info. Most definitely on the
       extremely safe side of fishkeeping but backs up everything he
       does with valid/credible info.
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       Re: Nitrates
       By: Jennifer Date: September 29, 2014, 11:36 pm
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       I'll have to go watch that guy, sounds interesting.
       I like the idea of a baseline, but I don't like the idea of
       waiting a week for water tests to establish a baseline.  Some
       tanks can go from 10ppm to 60ppm in a day or two.  The only way
       to know is ... daily testing.
       Now, I am not superwoman so my tanks don't get tested daily,
       but when you've got a newer tank or when you've just added new
       stock to existing stock, or I guess I should say when I have
       these things, I test more often.
       I need to go see what that guy has to say about nitrates.  I
       tried to watch him the other day - and I had a hard time with
       his monotone.   :-\  But I'll give it another go lol!
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       Re: Nitrates
       By: UnderCoverBrother Date: September 30, 2014, 12:00 am
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       Nitrates should be weekly:-
       As low as possible however changing your water everytime it
       reaches 5ppm although does well is not needed. You should change
       the water weekly percentage depends on bio-load and nitrates
       should be fine if reaching 20ppm per week (before water change).
       You might want to test the water parameters coming out of your
       tap, as my friend in the UK has 30-40 ppm of nitrates coming out
       of his tap.
       #Post#: 907--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nitrates
       By: Jennifer Date: September 30, 2014, 12:33 am
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       As far as that guy is concerned - the phrase that comes to my
       mind is:  if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them
       with bullshit.
       I don't even want to waste my time pointing out where the holes
       are with this one.  The most I'll say about it is that, there is
       theory and there is real life.  And everyone who has ever taken
       even the most basic chemistry class knows that difference can be
       massive.  Except for this clown.  He apparently think keeping
       aquariums is a mathematical equation.  Sorry but no.  He over
       simplifies things that need more attention and he over
       complicates the simple things.
       And he's probably going to be responsible for a lot of people
       killing their fish by convincing them not to do the water
       changes they need to do.
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       Re: Nitrates
       By: mrk13p Date: October 2, 2014, 2:48 am
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       lol thats why I try to take the main idea he has and go with
       that. Cybers on the far end of the spectrum of overanalyzing and
       safety. I can tell from your posts that you probably have more
       knowledge/experience that 99 percent of the people on here.
       Cybers a very hard listen because of his monotone voice and as
       you explained, his way of making easy things seem hard. But I
       feel, underneath it all, he has good ideas. From the nitrate
       videos, the main idea i took from there was having a baseline
       for nitrates. All the unnecessary things i threw out the door.
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       Re: Nitrates
       By: Mazken Date: October 2, 2014, 8:28 am
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       i agree you dont need wait a  week to create a base line ive
       basically have one now i did water change and waited 2 days
       tested water to get an idea of my rate of nitrates he had really
       good ideas. like he said think outside the box
       #Post#: 1030--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Nitrates
       By: Jennifer Date: October 2, 2014, 12:11 pm
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       Well, I do have a couple of degrees specifically in freshwater
       biology.  Which, doesn't make me an expert on aquariums, there
       are people out there with no degree that are way more
       knowledgeable than I am, but I've been in the hobby for a long
       time too.  So I do like to think I know what I'm talking about.
       I also keep my trap shut, or say outright when I don't really
       know something and I'm just guessing.  Reef tanks, I don't have
       a clue, and so I won't talk about them lol!
       But personally, I think it's flat out irresponsible.
       To me, that's just common sense that you'd be better off testing
       more often.  You don't have to do water changes every time you
       test.  So test.  Know what's going on in your tank.  All this
       math stuff - the problem with that is that people watch, hear
       his fancy math calculations and think "wow, he must know what
       he's talking about."  And then they spread that iffy advice and
       warp it round.  It's just .. bad if you ask me.
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