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Tank Talk Episode 9 Fish keeping 101 Part 4 "the cycling pr
ocess"
By: kgtropicals Date: September 23, 2014, 7:48 pm
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Ok folks, I was really proud of this one!! Let me know what you
think ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Tank Talk Episode 9 Fish keeping 101 Part 4 "the cyclin
g process"
By: probn Date: September 23, 2014, 8:37 pm
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Hi John
It was great episode but it's very hard for me to understand
this cycling process I don't know why
Here, test kits are not available and my lfs owner told me not
to put fish for 3 days in my new tank and after that when I put
fish all was well nothing happened and my fishes don't die when
doing that cause I've already tried it in 2 of my tanks that I
built
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Re: Tank Talk Episode 9 Fish keeping 101 Part 4 "the cyclin
g process"
By: Petsotics Date: September 23, 2014, 8:52 pm
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John,
Great episode. Although I already understand the cycle process,
I think ;) a refresher course is always good.
And you should never feel like a second fiddle to anyone
(everyone likes you for you). Joey is the King of DIY and you
are the Cichlid Sensai ;) (did I spell that right?) Same hobby,
two totally different things. :)
My goal is to be as big as the big box, but have the service of
the small mom n pop stores.
[glow=red,2,300]Dream big and big things will happen!!![/glow]
:D
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Re: Tank Talk Episode 9 Fish keeping 101 Part 4 "the cyclin
g process"
By: Seth_O Date: September 23, 2014, 10:18 pm
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John,
Excellent episode and podcast. I always wondered why my bags of
crushed coral said "supports healthy bacteria," and now i know!
Very interesting, i like learning the science behind things.
Keep up the great work!
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Re: Tank Talk Episode 9 Fish keeping 101 Part 4 "the cyclin
g process"
By: agirard2003 Date: September 25, 2014, 12:37 pm
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Great Episode John...
When i started in the hobby back in the day i was too young to
understand exactly what it took to take care of fish, i just
knew i liked having them and my mom did all the work.
Fast forward and I find myself in the same situation except i
have to figure out exactly what i'm doing. That was 5 yrs ago.
I was 30 and getting back into the hobby and started reading
about starting my first tank and the very first thing that was
in the book was the nitrogen cycle.
I read it over and over a few times and still wasn't making
sense. After getting our first tank up and running, i read that
we could do a fishless cycle. So i went with that method and it
wasn't until the 4th or 5th week that it finally started to make
sense. I would keep adding food to the tank and test the the
water 2 times a week and when i finally started to see the
bacteria develop and nitrites and nitrates appear in the test
tubes that the cycling process started to make sense. I kept a
journal to record to track what i was testing and looking back i
could see the slow progression of bacteria develop.
One thing i have noticed, in forums in general is many people
(especially beginner's) once they have their tank cycled they
put their test kit away and never test again. They get into
their routine of water change and filter cleaning and that's it,
never thinking that when they look at their tank, even though
the water looks clear and clean their could still be a problem
with their water.
I personally, test once a week. preferably mid week between my
weekly water changes to make sure everything is good.
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Re: Tank Talk Episode 9 Fish keeping 101 Part 4 "the cyclin
g process"
By: PaulMartin61 Date: September 25, 2014, 7:30 pm
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I think I lost a bead from my abacus, isn't this 'Part 3'?
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Great pod-cast. Loved the smoky room analogy.
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Re: Tank Talk Episode 9 Fish keeping 101 Part 4 "the cyclin
g process"
By: Jennifer Date: September 26, 2014, 12:52 pm
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There is some GREAT stuff in this video. Really great stuff. I
especially love that you've made it clear, clear, clear that the
old water is not a source of beneficial bacteria. It's probably
one of the most misunderstood concepts in the aquarium hobby.
However - um, I do have a bit of a disagreement with on fish in
vs. fish out cycling. Ironically, probably two or three years
ago I would have 100% agreed with you that a fish in cycle,
being on your game and some of the ammonia/nitrate busting
products that are out there was the easiest way to cycle. I've
been in this hobby for a lot of years and "back in the day" that
was the only way anyone ever cycled a tank. You put in fish,
you changed your water like a maniac, you expected you might
lose fish or have sick fish and dealt with it until the cycle
settled. That's just how it was done.
Later, people started doing fishless cycles by adding something
to the tank, like fish food, to help boost ammonia production.
Now, I've determined that the best use of those dissolvable
weekend fish feeder things, is to jump start a fishless cycle.
For several years, that's what I did exclusively. Yup, just
like you'd think, it makes a big mess and can even smell bad.
But once you get your cycle going a good water change and a
vacuum takes care of the mess.
Then I started hearing about cycling with pure ammonia. I know
you've heard of it too. You mentioned it in one of your older
videos and mentioned that you'd never done it yourself ;)
Initially I think I was a lot like you are, I resisted believing
that a cycle with pure ammonia would work. Cycling with fish
works, you just have to be on your game and I've got good game
so why would I do this thing that seems more complicated? But
after a few years of hearing people talking about it and how
successful it was, I decided to try it for myself.
And guess what? It's faster and much, much easier than any of
the other methods I've used. It's ESPECIALLY speedy if you have
some items to seed the tank with. You can get a monster solid
cycle in about a week seeding with pure ammonia. Now, I have
tried the fishless ammonia cycle with and without adding
bacteria products and I see no significant difference in the
amount of time it takes for the cycle to complete itself.
So, I guess what I'm saying is - I don't think your wrong. In
the world of cycling with fish, I actually think you're spot on
with the information. I just think you're a little light when
it comes to fishless cycling information. I'm also not judging
people based on which method they prefer. I too, have cycled
tanks with fish and can't say that I wouldn't do it again if
necessary. But my preference now leans towards doing a fishless
cycle, with pure ammonia if at all possible. Even in a seeded
tank.
But again, overall, I think this was a much needed video when it
comes to really explaining what the nitrogen cycle is and how it
applies to our aquariums. I truly think it's one of the most
overwhelming parts for people who are new to the hobby and your
analogies really simplified a lot of it!! Bravo for that!
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Re: Tank Talk Episode 9 Fish keeping 101 Part 4 "the cyclin
g process"
By: hapguy63 Date: October 1, 2014, 11:18 am
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I have to agree with Jennifer on using pure ammonia to help
cycle your tank. I use this method exclusively now as from my
experience its much faster than using fish and no need to put
fish in danger or do massive water changes. This combined with
seeding the tank with bacteria from other tanks is the fastest
method.
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Re: Tank Talk Episode 9 Fish keeping 101 Part 4 "the cyclin
g process"
By: Petsotics Date: October 1, 2014, 2:43 pm
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I just use the no fish/feed the tank method and let nature take
its' course. :P
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Re: Tank Talk Episode 9 Fish keeping 101 Part 4 "the cyclin
g process"
By: 23patrick Date: January 16, 2015, 9:46 am
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i put fish in my tank 2 weeks after it started up
i have had no problems with the cycle
in my moms tank she did not even now the cycle existed
i dont get what the big deal is
but i understand it
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