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Re: Buttons not staying depressed in layout mode of beta 23
DIR By: EmilioLeRoux
Date: January 28, 2016, 7:12 pm
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--- Quote from: justice link ---
>
> Hi Mario,
>
> Would you give something a try for me. I recently had another
user point out something to me. If you search "pen settings" in
the search bar (cortana) and switch the setting from left to
right (or vise versa) this can have a really positive impact on
the consistency of some of these issues.
>
> Justice
>
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Hi everyone!
I have some information to share on this matter.
(Actually I was breaking my head but now that I read your
question things I made some tests and some things became clear)
I have 2 Surface Pros (1st version. Short story: one of them has
a defective usb port and I ended up with two.)
One of them runs Windows 8.1, which I like a lot, the other one
runs Windows 10.
ON THE SURFACE PRO/WINDOWS 10, with TABLETPRO 2.0.0.1,
* Set to Right-Handed writing:
- When Artist Pad is on LEFT side if the screen, shift/ctrl/alt
buttons don't work exactly as expected.
When hovering the pen over the screen, pressing SHIFT or any
button makes cursor (the typical dot) to dissappear for a
second, then an arrow cursor will show up. The first CLICK will
be lost - for instance, if I select an item on a folder, then
press SHIFT or CTRL and select another item, I would expect
adding the new items to the selection. INstead, the selection
gets cleared.
-When Artist Pad is on RIGHT, everything works fine. That is:
the 'dot' is always on the screen, and when you press a button,
it stays there and the 'SHIFT' or 'CTRL' tooltip shows up below.
No selection is lost.
- This changes according to the Left/Right Handed selection,
that is, if Windows is set to LEFT HANDED and the Artist Pad is
on the LEFT, it works fine.
ON SURFACE PRO/ WIN 8.1: Everything works right (although
installed version there is TabletPro 2.0.0.0 (beta 49).
#Post#: 192--------------------------------------------------
Re: Buttons not staying depressed in layout mode of beta 23
DIR By: EmilioLeRoux
Date: January 28, 2016, 7:20 pm
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A-ha...
The cause seems to be the 'improved' palm rejection introduced
in Windows 10.
In Windows 8.1 palm rejection is simple: as far as you are
hovering the pen over the screen, no touch is taken anywhere in
the screen.
In Windows 10, if you set pen to RIGHT Handed, palm rejection
ignores any touch made at the RIGHT of the tip of the pen (where
your hand is suppossed to be) and the opposite happens when you
set windows to LEFT Handed writing.
But you can still touch the screen with your finger on the
opposite side! That means the user is able to click, drag and
touch with his left hand even when the pen is over the screen
and the right hand touches it.
So... I don't know what kind of black magic are (were?) you
using to bypass Palm Rejection, but from what I can see, Windows
10 DOES ACCEPT touch and pen at the same time, as far as the
touch is on the opposite side of your writing hand! Things
might even become easier now.
EDIT: Sorry I was over enthusiastic. It won't be easier - as
Windows 10 accepts touch on the opposite side than my writing
hand, it does read the touch over the Artist Pad region and it
causes loss of focus under the tip of the pen, that is the
problem and that is also why you can't hold down the buttons,
because when the Pen takes focus, the touch on the left side is
lost. It is out of Tabletpro's control.
This even makes the Artist Pad to accept multitouch! something
that TabletPro doesn't allow - holding two buttons.
If I set windows to Left Handed, Artist pad works, but palm
rejection doesn't work correctly, because my right hand is on
the screen.
And so there comes one more reason I don't like Windows 10 on
the Surfaces.
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