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       Re: Who has read all the books to date?
       By: JDubya Date: June 15, 2014, 4:56 pm
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       [quote author=Daltanyn link=topic=58.msg381#msg381
       date=1402865998]
       [quote author=Jerdon link=topic=58.msg374#msg374
       date=1402864077]
       If you are worried about spoilers, you can safely read the first
       3.[/quote]
       Well, there is a spoiler involving a certain character's
       resurrection in the Epilogue of Book 3. It hasn't been revealed
       in the show yet and probably won't be until Season 5...or maybe
       tonight's episode.
       [/quote]
       I have a sense that tonight might show this resurrection only
       because the last scene involving key participants seemed ages
       ago. The knight and her squire leave the inn with a direwolf
       shaped bread, and that's it for their Season 4? That would be
       wack. I hope that is the very last scene tonight.
       #Post#: 387--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who has read all the books to date?
       By: Aelfred Date: June 15, 2014, 5:41 pm
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       Haven't read any of them yet, though obviously I'm interested. I
       saw that GRRM also wrote some prequel novellas called Tales of
       Dunk and Egg. Anyone know them? Should I start there, or with
       the main line books?
       #Post#: 401--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who has read all the books to date?
       By: Daltanyn Date: June 16, 2014, 6:49 am
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       I've heard of them, but they're pretty much irrelevant as far as
       the show's plot is concerned. My advice: read whatever you like.
       #Post#: 739--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who has read all the books to date?
       By: Kiel_TK421 Date: July 4, 2014, 7:21 pm
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       [quote author=Jerdon link=topic=58.msg362#msg362
       date=1402845233]
       I am halfway through the second book and still haven't gotten
       any indication that Renly is gay although Martin said that he
       made that clear in the novels.  Foppish, yes.  But, I haven't
       seen anything that would explictly make him gay.
       [/quote]
       Really? I thought GRRM made it pretty clear when Catelyn met
       Renly and his entourage for the first time. He never says it
       outright, but most of his men make jokes that Renly's marriage
       with Margary hasn't been consummated and probably never will be
       due to his "preferences". He gives his wife every courtesy but
       speaks to Loras all through dinner and is usually leaning
       against him or in contact with him in some way.
       #Post#: 740--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who has read all the books to date?
       By: Jerdon Date: July 4, 2014, 8:12 pm
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       I am going to have to reread that section.  I got the "will
       probably stay a maid" reference on the second go through.
       Didn't catch the dinner part.  I am going to have to take my
       gaydar in for repair.
       #Post#: 741--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who has read all the books to date?
       By: Kiel_TK421 Date: July 4, 2014, 9:12 pm
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       See if you can grab one for me while you're at the shop. I don't
       think my gaydar has ever existed; it pretty much has to be in
       writing. :P
       #Post#: 742--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who has read all the books to date?
       By: Black Tooth Grin Date: July 4, 2014, 9:17 pm
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       I  read all the books basically back to back about 3 years ago.
       I started reading Game of Thrones and I couldn't put it down and
       then read the rest straight after. The books are a great read
       going into much more depth with characters and plots.  I like
       the tv series however they have left a great deal of the story
       out but i understand that it would be extremely expensive and
       perhaps a lot slower if they didn't.
       I didn't like the shortening of the battles in the series as
       they were much more complex especially  the battle between the
       wildlings and the nights watch, There's no way they could fit
       that battle in one episode and the same for the battle of
       blackwater.
       I still enjo the series but when they change the story from the
       book I am left thinking wtf?
       #Post#: 743--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who has read all the books to date?
       By: JDubya Date: July 4, 2014, 10:06 pm
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       I  think the tendency for the TV series to change actors for
       various roles in each season is just as annoying. I can't recall
       any other show of comparable popularity where the person playing
       a key character changes so often. Those who have read the books
       know certain characters die or leave and show up a book later.
       But how many people are they going to hire to play the Mountain?
       Are we even certain the current guy will be there in the future
       seasos? LOL! Regardless, I'll continue to watch because the show
       runners do a great job taming GRRM's beast. This is just one of
       my few criticisms of GoT.
       #Post#: 771--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who has read all the books to date?
       By: Lamey Date: July 7, 2014, 1:33 am
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       I too have read the books; started them a long time ago and then
       waited... and waited... ... and waited for each successive one
       to come out.  I'd taken to reading the sample chapters on GRRMs
       not-a-blog just to give myself a fix, and I've done at couple of
       read-throughs of each book.  I probably need to give the Hedge
       Knight a re-read too at some point.
       On the plus side, the waiting had encouraged me to look for
       other options*; quite enjoyed the First Law books by Joe
       Abercrombie which temporarily slaked my thirst for flawed
       characters and dark humor.
       * Another option still under consideration is the installation
       of a Moon Door into my balcony.
       #Post#: 792--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who has read all the books to date?
       By: Kiel_TK421 Date: July 7, 2014, 10:58 am
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       (Just got to the Red Wedding in the books. I knew it was coming,
       but that doesn't make it any easier to read. I feel like my
       brain can't even process what just happened.)
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