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Re: Rules Discussion
DIR By: Mike PRO
Date: February 4, 2018, 9:35 am
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In the past years I too have had BAD lies in the bunker. Unless
the bunker is a LAKE i see no reason to move the ball. It's
unfortunate that the people that played before did not RAKE the
bunker, and I have had some really bad ones, just take your
medicine it is a hazard, you hit it there and play on....just my
one cent.........
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Re: Rules Discussion
DIR By: badri
Date: February 5, 2018, 3:04 pm
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We all know that this is not a million dollar league and with
every stroke there isn't million dollar in stake. So to an
extend we can relax on rule with water clogged bunker, lay in
the divot etc.. and make it more a fun. I appreciate all my golf
partners who have been nice and asked me to move the ball in
such situations.
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Re: Rules Discussion
DIR By: EdL
Date: February 6, 2018, 8:38 am
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Since everyone seems to be hung up on the water in the bunker
issue, here is what the real rules recommend. Still 9 weeks to
go.
Options for Relief When You Hit Into Casual Water Inside a
Bunker
If your ball comes to rest in casual water within a bunker, you
may drop without penalty at the nearest point of relief within
the bunker, no nearer the hole. That applies no matter what the
condition is of the rest of the bunker.
If the rest of the bunker is dry, great. But even if the entire
bunker contains water, the same rule applies - if you drop, you
must drop within that bunker to avoid penalty. So if the bunker
is completely filled with water, your only option to improve the
situation without penalty is this, according to the USGA Web
site:
"... the player may drop the ball in the bunker at a point
that provides maximum available relief (i.e., in 1 inch of water
rather than 5 inches)."
If you are unwilling to drop inside the bunker, then you can
assess yourself a 1-stroke penalty and drop outside the bunker,
no nearer the hole.
In the rule book, these options are covered in Rule 25-1(b),
which addresses relief from abnormal ground conditions (casual
water falls under the abnormal ground condition label).
Basically, a free drop out of casual water is available on the
putting green, on the teeing grounds and through the green. And
also if you lift your ball out of casual water in a bunker but
drop it within the bunker.
So why penalize a golfer when the option to drop on dry sand
within a bunker doesn't exist because the entire bunker is full
of water?
Well, bunkers are hazards. You're supposed to avoid them, even
when they are in perfect condition. Dropping outside the bunker
would be an advantage for most golfers, so you don't get to do
it scot-free.
Moral of the story: Avoid bunkers - especially after a heavy
rain.
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Re: Rules Discussion
DIR By: lightjeff
Date: February 6, 2018, 11:00 am
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Ed,
I agree that we need to come to some conclusion about the
unplayable bunkers. I'm fine with the USGA rule on that.
However, please be reminded that we relaxed our league rules to
make our rounds more enjoyable and speed up pace of play. Don't
go back to saddling the league with 50 million petty rules.
That's a big reason why the Sensel group left. It needs to be
about FUN and COMPETITION, not about having all these rules. I
don't agree with the USGA. Yes, there needs to be rules, but
some of them are so damn stupid that it's comical. I'm glad to
see they are relaxing some of them, but I'm still waiting for
the 2 stroke penalty for putting my ball marker in my left
pocket instead of my right pocket. Heck, it's probably a
disqualification for attaching it to my hat. LOL
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Re: Rules Discussion
DIR By: jl3150
Date: February 7, 2018, 12:48 pm
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I believe if water in bunker, rake and place would work. Jim
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