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Cycling Doping Affairs/Scandals
By: Farynthane Date: September 6, 2012, 5:25 am
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Firstly, check this movie in order to watch the part in the 2nd
video.
HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePZ3c4h95og
Secondly, check this movie between the 14:15-14:30 mark and
listen carefully what the commentator says about Tyler
Hamilton...
HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JARCpkeRJq4
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Re: How ironic...
By: Jus call me J Date: September 6, 2012, 9:06 am
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I was really shocked by this scandal...
I have always been a bit of a fan of cycling and the TDF...
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Re: How ironic...
By: Farynthane Date: September 6, 2012, 4:54 pm
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[quote author=Jus call me J link=topic=325.msg6524#msg6524
date=1346940372]
I was really shocked by this scandal...
I have always been a bit of a fan of cycling and the TDF...
[/quote]
Me too, but I found it very interesting as well. But I actually
think the whole peloton used such enhancing drugs at the time.
They still do now, but less. Check year 1997 and 1998 as
example. Especially 1997 looks suspicious to me.
General Final Classification (Tour the France) year 1997
1. Jan Ullrich 100h 30' 35"
2. Richard Virenque
3. Marco Pantani + 14' 03"
4. Abraham Olano + 15' 55"
5. Fernando Escartín + 20' 32"
6. Francesco Casagrande + 22' 47"
7. Bjarne Riis + 26' 34"
8. José-Maria Jimenez + 31' 17"
9. Laurent Dufaux + 31' 55"
10. Roberto Conti + 32' 26"
Both Virenque and Pantani were awesome climbers.
in 1998 Pantani won the Tour de France with about 3-4 minutes
ahead of Ullrich, if I am correct, after that Lance won it 7
times. With about most wins pure domination, especially the US
Postal years. But I really liked those years of Tour the France.
Anyways this years Tour the France was actually quite boring,
Evans wasn't as strong as he should be (he had an infection),
Contador (suspended) and A. Schleck (Injured). Wiggins didn't
seem that strong in the mountains compared to Froome as example.
And with riders like A. Schleck and Contador, Wiggins would lose
a lot of time in the mountains, that's for sure. But a great
cyclist anyways.
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Re: How ironic...
By: Jus call me J Date: September 7, 2012, 3:38 am
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Was you watching the cycling at the London Olympics?
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Re: How ironic...
By: Farynthane Date: September 7, 2012, 6:59 am
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[quote author=Jus call me J link=topic=325.msg6529#msg6529
date=1347007095]
Was you watching the cycling at the London Olympics?
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Yeah, why J? To be honest, I found it quite bizar that both
Wiggins and Froome didn't actually look really tired, while Tony
Martin was sitting on the ground and actually couldn't stand up
anymore Haha. But Wiggins is just a great time trial specialist,
he also showed that at indoor cycling. Also Froome is. Actually
whole Team Sky has great cyclist who are able to put some good
time trial up. A few examples are: Porte, Rogers, Thomas,
Boassen Hagen. Also Pate and I believe Dowsett are good time
trial cyclists too.
But as I said, Wiggins also won the time trials in the Tour the
France kinda easily. And I actually looked forward to that
Olympics time trial, to see if Wiggins was still able to crush
the entire field after a course like Tour the France. But I
doubt he used any dope.
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Re: How ironic...
By: Jus call me J Date: September 8, 2012, 2:17 am
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Well I only really asked to see if you thought everything was
legit as you seem to have an eye for it...
I was a little shocked when Team GB and Cav lost the first road
race when they were billed as faves...
Cavendish looked as shocked as anything too...
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Re: How ironic...
By: Farynthane Date: September 8, 2012, 7:36 pm
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[quote author=Jus call me J link=topic=325.msg6537#msg6537
date=1347088648]
Well I only really asked to see if you thought everything was
legit as you seem to have an eye for it...
I was a little shocked when Team GB and Cav lost the first road
race when they were billed as faves...
Cavendish looked as shocked as anything too...
[/quote]
Kinda, I actually felt bad for Cancellara. He had a big
fall/crash in one the stages earlier this season. Where he
totally crushed one of his shoulders if I remember correct. And
in the first race at the Olympics he crashed into the boarders
and actually landed on his shoulder. And wasn't sure if he could
make it for the time trials, but in the end he just started at
the time trial. Too bad he didn't show his Time Trial
specialism, cause he is one of the best around.
Back about Wiggins and Froome. As long as there isn't proof of
them using dope aka having positive tests, I give them the
benefit of the doubt. But Sky ProCycling aka Team Sky is
actually known to make cyclists better cyclists. Not sure how,
should be in the way they train, I guess.
I was actually surprised that Frank Schleck had a positive test
this Tour the France. He said that he didn't know how it got
into his body, but that's something which most sporters/cyclists
use as excuse. But Frank Schleck is one of the cyclists I
actually could believe. But the problem is how can a cyclist
ever proof that, they just can't really.
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Re: How ironic...
By: Jus call me J Date: September 9, 2012, 2:17 am
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He's saying he was spiked?
Imagine that... I bet it would be easy to do and ruin someone's
career...
Where ever there is competition, there is corruption...
That sucks...
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Re: How ironic...
By: Jus call me J Date: September 9, 2012, 9:59 am
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He's saying he was spiked?
Imagine that... I bet it would be easy to do and ruin someone's
career...
Where ever there is competition, there is corruption...
That sucks...
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Re: How ironic...
By: Farynthane Date: September 9, 2012, 10:27 am
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[quote author=Jus call me J link=topic=325.msg6549#msg6549
date=1347202748]
He's saying he was spiked?
Imagine that... I bet it would be easy to do and ruin someone's
career...
Where ever there is competition, there is corruption...
That sucks...
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It was actually the same when Contador tested positive for
clenbuterol.
"Alberto Contador is affected by a doping control at the last
Tour de France on July 21 (2010), where it was found the
substance clenbuterol"
"From the time of the first communication from the UCI, August
24 (2010), Alberto Contador alleged food contamination as the
only possible explanation of what happened and has been turned
over to the cyclist authorities since then in the confidence
that this very serious problem could be clarified, which now is
public."
Contador said about that test: "You can put your hand in the
fire and not get burned. If it had been a clear case of doping
it would have come out that week. The food poisoning occurred
due to a eating a steak that had come from Spain."
Another quote: "The experts consulted so far have agreed also
that this is a food contamination case, especially considering
the number of tests passed by Alberto Contador during the Tour
de France, making it possible to define precisely both the time
the emergence of the substance as the tiny amount detected,
ruling out any other source or intentionality."
It could be possible that Frank Schleck has became a victim of
food being injected or something familiar, without knowing about
it. But Frank Schleck has one problem. He has Bruyneel as team
manager. Bruyneel was also team manager of US Postal, Discovery
Channel and Astana before he managed RadioShack. Contador tested
positive when he was riding for Astana.
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