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       Re: Saints Row The Third - General Chat (May contain Spoilers)
       By: Matthias King Date: November 26, 2011, 8:18 am
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       Overall I'm pretty disappointed with SR3.  I was going to post a
       full review and get into real detail, but I decided that's a
       waste of time, so I'll just say this; the amount of time I
       invested in both SR1 and SR2 borders on embarrassing.  I put a
       ridiculous amount of time into those games.  Playing through the
       campaign many times, doing the activities a lot, playing the
       multiplayer, doing the co-op modes in SR1's multiplayer, doing
       campaign co-op in SR2, etc...  Now, just over a week after SR3's
       release, I've already finished the campaign, 100%'d all the side
       stuff, gotten all the achievements, and am generally done with
       the game.  I don't imagine I'll spend any real time with the
       game again until possibly the first significant DLC pack comes
       out.  That, to me, is sad.  And I think it probably sums up my
       impression of the game.
       So basically, SR3 is good but not great.  Good enough for me to
       go through it all and finish it all up once, but not great so as
       to keep me coming back endlessly.  If I can get philosophical
       for a moment, if the first two games had, for lack of a better
       word, a soul, then SR3 has none.  It seems like a pretty box
       that when you open up, it's empty.  Once you get past the new
       engine and improved graphics and some improved game mechanics,
       there's not really much else there, and that is really sad.
       Incidentally, Volition used to be my favorite game developer,
       but now after they first managed to completely ignore fans and
       their questionable choices literally killed the Red Faction
       franchise, and NOW they've managed to alienate a lot of their
       Saints Row fanbase with a host of baffling design, gameplay,
       story, and business choices, and arguably damaged the SR
       franchise, coupled with their extremely questionable DLC
       business and slight of hand about all that whole mess, I no
       longer care for Volition as a studio.  I don't like the way they
       do things and I do like the way they do business.
       So I'm just left with a SR3 box on my shelf that will rarely get
       played again while I wait for a REAL game studio to release a
       game called MASS EFFECT 3 and remind me what a quality game is.
       #Post#: 1199--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saints Row The Third - General Chat (May contain Spoilers)
       By: Doctor-D666 Date: November 27, 2011, 12:13 am
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       So just played SR:TT and got the other ending (Shaundi dies)....
       What a stupid piece of garbage it is. Now to replay and get the
       proper ending (in my opinion anyway).
       #Post#: 1203--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saints Row The Third - General Chat (May contain Spoilers)
       By: iC3xM4n Date: November 27, 2011, 3:04 am
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       @Shadow to something you mentioned in an earlier post about the
       samurai armor and stuff: If I remember correctly, I saw that in
       the description of some future DLC. So, as many people here have
       said: fuckin' DLC.
       #Post#: 1277--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saints Row The Third - General Chat (May contain Spoilers)
       By: Leezy810 Date: November 27, 2011, 9:30 pm
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       Why are people saying the season pass is only a discount? It's
       not. They may have made a lot of shit DLC, but they aren't that
       shady.
       #Post#: 1280--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saints Row The Third - General Chat (May contain Spoilers)
       By: iC3xM4n Date: November 27, 2011, 10:05 pm
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       Yeah, they state that it's 15% off for the people that actually
       have to buy the season pass, because the price of the season
       pass is the price of all of those dlcs minus 15%. You'll
       download them for free when they come out. Like the rockstar
       pass for l.a. noire.
       #Post#: 1325--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saints Row The Third - General Chat (May contain Spoilers)
       By: Farynthane Date: November 29, 2011, 5:00 pm
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       Just about the Saints Row: The Third development history and
       facts.
       [quote]SAINTS ROW: THE THIRD DEVELOPMENT HISTORY AND FACTS.
       Every game goes through an evolution process and sometimes
       changes are made late in the cycle if something just doesn't
       feel right. A game of this massive scale has had its share of
       alterations as well as some give and take. Here are some of the
       highlights.
       The large steel mill on the north of downtown was nearly cut
       several times due to scope, size, and remaining time to get it
       done, but ultimately it didn't seem right for Steelport not to
       have a steel mill.
       The story went through many drastic changes over different
       drafts and scope reduction. Here are some of the biggest
       changes:
       [list]
       [li]The Syndicate used to be made up of five actors.[/li]
       [li]Oleg wasn't cloned, he was a leg breaker of the Syndicate,
       who joined the Saints to be with his role model: Josh Birk.
       (Thanks for changing this, Volition.)[/li]
       [li]Gat didn't die, he was captured and you saved him. (Why, oh
       why, did they removed this from Saints Row: The Third. Could be
       some bad-ass mission if you'd ask me.)[/li]
       [li]Shaundi had a subplot that explored survivor's guilt and
       depression.[/li]
       [li]Shaundi never appeared in the game at all, instead she was
       off filming her reality show in Mexico. At the end of the game
       you were to see her unwittingly on a date with Killbane without
       his mask on.[/li]
       [li]Viola and Kiki both join the Saints. (Actually, to me it
       made sense that Viola stepped out the Syndicate in order to join
       the Saints instead, why following a leader who killed your
       sister. They did actually a good job to get one of the two
       sisters getting killed. Now one of the two had at least a good
       reason to.)[/li]
       [li]The calamity that caused STAG to roll into town changed
       multiple times. Originally Killbane set off a dirty bomb that
       totally cratered Stilwater. Then it was changed to the Syndicate
       destroyed Stilwater in the middle of a convention called Saints
       Con, killing thousands of innocent people as well as Tobias and
       Laura from Saints Row and Saints Row 2. Next, it was changed to
       the blowing up of the Saints church during Gat's funeral.
       Finally, it ended up as the destruction of the bridge.[/li]
       [li]There was a bonus cutscene planned, after the bridge is
       destroyed, where the Saints are singing a "We Are The World"
       type of song to raise money for Stilwater.[/li]
       [li]In one story draft, if you chose to save Shaundi and Viola
       at the end of the game there was a coda after the closing
       credits where Shaundi is at Gat's grave. She's upset that the
       Saints let Killbane get away and have gone back to being
       celebrities again. She is then recruited by Cyrus and joins
       STAG.[/li]
       [li]Likewise, if you chose the other option to kill Killbane,
       there was a coda after the closing credits where an enigmatic
       figure was flying into Steelport on a Syndicate jet and the
       person accompanying him was Johnny Gat.[/li]
       [/list][/quote]
       PS: I quoted this, because it's from a book I have. And if you
       can see at some points I gave my own personal opinion, between
       the ().
       #Post#: 1337--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saints Row The Third - General Chat (May contain Spoilers)
       By: Bluexusion Date: November 29, 2011, 7:08 pm
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       What book?
       Also, just read Claude's post. What the fuck!? Are you shitting
       me? So we have to pay for something that's already in the
       goddamn game? My friends tried to tell me that I should get the
       PC version. Can't wait until they crack that. It'll probably be
       better than the real game.
       Also if you can have a shark gun, how come we can't have sharks
       in the actual ocean? why isn't that an easter egg?
       #Post#: 1344--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saints Row The Third - General Chat (May contain Spoilers)
       By: jameson18 Date: November 30, 2011, 12:48 am
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       This video shows most of the DLC stuff
  HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=Ggn-WZp2OGA#t=111s
       #Post#: 1366--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saints Row The Third - General Chat (May contain Spoilers)
       By: Farynthane Date: November 30, 2011, 2:15 pm
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       [quote author=Bluexusion link=topic=3.msg1337#msg1337
       date=1322615286]
       What book?[/quote]
       The Studio Edition of Prima's official Saints Row: The Third
       Strategy Guide.
       #Post#: 1375--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Saints Row The Third - General Chat (May contain Spoilers)
       By: iC3xM4n Date: November 30, 2011, 7:19 pm
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       I thought about getting the guide, can't remember if it was
       prima or not (it was the one with the dlc code), but didn't
       think the money shot pack wasworth 20-some odd dollars since i
       can get everything else in it for free online.
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