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       Re:  Concord grapes
   DIR By: nccatfisher
       Date: September 1, 2014, 2:40 pm
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       > right? si or no?
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       Ok if  a pesticide is pulled in one state and isn't in another
       then if the label directs you how to use it then according to
       what you are saying you should be able to use it in the state it
       is pulled in? Si or no?  :hmm: :lol: :fan:
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       Re:  Concord grapes
   DIR By: Dean Torges
       Date: September 2, 2014, 9:37 am
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       > Mr. Dogbyte I watched the complete presentation by your friend
       and it was very interesting. I am pretty sure most of the people
       in this country really don't know whats at stake if all these
       peoples efforts fail. thanks for posting it. :thumbsup:
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       Me, too, Pete. The human population explosion, and the
       technologically facilitated explosion of wheat, rice, bean and
       corn production that rose up to feed it looks to have come at a
       pay-me-later expense. Scaffolding has gotten so rickety and
       scary that people have climbed down out of desperation and are
       busting ass in the fields hoeing weeds again. Seems the
       realization has come that if technological improvements keep
       creating unintended consequences that we hope to solve with more
       technological solutions, we won't be able to get ahead of the
       cycle of consequences they create, not at least while remaining
       fat and lazy.
       Grab a spade and a hoe and head for the melon patch.
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       Re:  Concord grapes
   DIR By: Dogbyte
       Date: September 2, 2014, 9:38 am
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       --- Quote from: nccatfisher link ---
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       > Ok if  a pesticide is pulled in one state and isn't in another
       then if the label directs you how to use it then according to
       what you are saying you should be able to use it in the state it
       is pulled in? Si or no?  :hmm: :lol: :fan:
       >
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       You misunderstand me. The answer is No, you would not be able to
       use it, because if your state has specific restrictions it will
       say to contact that state plant board on the label, so by
       following the label, you will be following the law.   :tip:
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       Re:  Concord grapes
   DIR By: Dogbyte
       Date: September 2, 2014, 9:39 am
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       --- Quote from: redfinn link ---
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       > Mr. Dogbyte I watched the complete presentation by your friend
       and it was very interesting. I am pretty sure most of the people
       in this country really don't know whats at stake if all these
       peoples efforts fail. thanks for posting it. :thumbsup:
       >
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       i live next to the guy, and i didnt know right off the bat.
       :lol: did you see what that single palm weed did to that field
       in 3 years?
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       Re:  Concord grapes
   DIR By: Dean Torges
       Date: September 2, 2014, 10:16 am
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       Since there’s no short-term profit in long-term vision, people
       won’t change their habits until there’s no longer any short-term
       profit left to be had. Looks like we’re just about there.
       Your friend says he's frustrated because he doesn’t have tech
       answers now, Dale, but look where he’s heading. Practices that
       don’t sew weed seed back into fields. Burning. Hoeing.
       There have been answers to these problems by farsighted people
       for a good while now. Monsanto just can’t look there because
       there’s no profit in it for them. These answers are centered
       around organic farming practices. Sure, they won’t feed the
       world’s swollen population numbers, and sure, we’ll have to get
       back into seed diversity, but they will allow some of us to live
       here more harmoniously. He's right, we will have to think
       outside the box. About fundamentals.
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       Re:  Concord grapes
   DIR By: Dean Torges
       Date: September 2, 2014, 10:19 am
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       Those fundamentals which require reexamination are the very
       underpinnings of our world, the assumptions which we hold as
       golden truths. They are about our religions, our economics, and
       our relation to the natural world. I say good luck with that.
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       Re:  Concord grapes
   DIR By: Dogbyte
       Date: September 2, 2014, 10:25 am
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       he mentioned a few combines manufacturers that had plans to
       incorporate that pull behind chaff cart idea that he showed a
       pic of from Australia. I wondered what kinda work he could be
       doing down there, but he said they already went through all
       this, thats why they are ahead of the curve. it was only $250k
       :faint:
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