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Evangelisim
By: Marina Date: January 23, 2019, 5:54 pm
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If God intended for all his creation to be 100% saved, why then
are there so many non-believers and why are their hearts so
tough towards accepting Christ when they come across His
mention?
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Re: Evangelisim
By: minaminou Date: January 23, 2019, 6:05 pm
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I guess we often mistaken between what God want and what we
want!
So God's desire is for everyone to be saved, but it's up to
people at the end whether they choose to be saved or not.
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Re: Evangelisim
By: Antoine Date: January 23, 2019, 6:34 pm
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[quote author=minaminou link=topic=3.msg4#msg4 date=1548288321]
So God's desire is for everyone to be saved, but it's up to
people at the end whether they choose to be saved or not.
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Disclaimer: The church probably wouldn't agree with what follows
To make sure we're on the same page: I believe salvation here
refers to knowing Christ and accepting Him in one's life.
I would agree with the first half of the quoted sentence, but I
don't think it's fair to assume that everyone has the same
freedom to accept Christ. So many people we meet were only
introduced to a Jesus that was distorted by their beliefs they
were born in, or by parents or figures of authority they grew up
around, or Christians that showed the wrong example. Others may
have spent their whole lives without ever hearing of Him, a
couple extreme examples I can think about would be the nations
in the Old Testament that weren't around the Israelites, and the
native people of the Americas/Australia before the Europeans
landed there and brought some form of Christianity with them.
However I believe that God has ways to reach these people, (
sorry for not being very orthodox here [emoji16]) even if they
don't know/accept Christ. We learn that there is no
salvation/life/resurrection except through Christ but I believe
it's a matter of applying the parable of the talents here. We
have the most talents ( communion in the Incarnate Word of God )
therefore we are expected to accept Him. Others, for multiple
reasons, have less of the true knowledge of who God is,
therefore less is expected from them.
That said, it is still sad to see our friends missing out on
knowing Christ and having the Holy Spirit, so it still makes
sense to invite them to experience the blessing that we have,
but we're not in a place to judge/know/proclaim that they have
no other way of knowing God.
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Re: Evangelisim
By: minaminou Date: January 24, 2019, 7:35 am
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That's true...not everyone has the blessing of knowing Christ,
although everyone has the opportunity to find Christ (if they
look)!
and the question we were supposed to discuss yesterday is: will
they perish? or will God be merciful????
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Re: Evangelisim
By: Antoine Date: January 24, 2019, 5:20 pm
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[quote author=minaminou link=topic=3.msg6#msg6 date=1548336925]
everyone has the opportunity to find Christ (if they look)!
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Could you please clarify this a little bit ? What would push
somebody to "look" if they're content with what they have and
don't realize they are missing out, or if they have different
journeys that make them perceive our beliefs as ridiculous lies
that belittle the God they know ?
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Re: Evangelisim
By: minaminou Date: January 25, 2019, 6:36 am
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so this would apply on 2 categories of people.
1- Those who don't know God at all:
And for those, everything around them is pointing them to the
creator. Whether they wanna see it or not, it's their choice.
It's explained clearly in this verse
"what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown
it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible
attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that
are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are
without excuse" Romans 1:19
2- Those who has "a God" but not Christ:
Christ is known to everyone in the world in this era. The media,
the internet, the history; our own calendar has started with the
birth of Christ to always point to Him.
Those who are actually looking would always find answers.
“Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock
and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks
receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks,
the door will be opened" Matthew 7:7
"Nevertheless He did not leave Himself without witness" Acts
14:17
What would push them to look? is exactly what should push you to
look too!
Are we ought to go through life not questioning things? How do
you know that Christianity is right and not the other religions?
We should be having an answer to that ...and for those who are
not Christians too, they should have an answer why they believe
what they believe.
and when they will start looking, they will SURELY find the
right way!
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