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       #Post#: 5781--------------------------------------------------
       Re: POLL:  Which one change should Jerry Reinsdorf make this
       off-season?
   DIR By: PeteWard
       Date: September 3, 2011, 5:21 pm
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       KW brings up de Aza as a way of saying to the team (and Rios)
       "produce or else" and Ozzie promptly sits Rios ONE game.  I'm
       sick of all of them.  If I only get one choice, it's fire KW and
       pray the new GM fires Ozzie and Walker.
       #Post#: 5787--------------------------------------------------
       Re: POLL:  Which one change should Jerry Reinsdorf make this
       off-season?
   DIR By: Sophist
       Date: September 4, 2011, 12:06 am
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       Ozzie's act has worn thin.  The bad line-ups, the talk about
       "playing baseball the right way" (while he continues to throw
       lolligaggers like Rios out there), the nonsense with the tweets.
       Ozzie's teams start slow and they tank it in the end.  I think
       he was a good manager for awhile, but whatever he had is gone.
       There are certainly strikes against Kenny, too, but I am ok with
       some mistakes causes by being an agressive GM.  He needs to get
       his head out of Mr. Rectum over drafting, and paying the price
       for talent, and actually thinking that you might bring
       talent--and not only trade fodder--through your minor-league
       system.  And his passive-aggressive crap when dealing with Ozzie
       is a big strike, but a fresh manager may help with a lot of
       this.
       #Post#: 5796--------------------------------------------------
       Re: POLL:  Which one change should Jerry Reinsdorf make this
       off-season?
   DIR By: joeconners
       Date: September 4, 2011, 8:12 pm
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       --- Quote from: Sophist link ---
       >
       > Ozzie's act has worn thin.  The bad line-ups, the talk about
       "playing baseball the right way" (while he continues to throw
       lolligaggers like Rios out there), the nonsense with the tweets.
       Ozzie's teams start slow and they tank it in the end.  I think
       he was a good manager for awhile, but whatever he had is gone.
       >
       >
       > There are certainly strikes against Kenny, too, but I am ok
       with some mistakes causes by being an agressive GM.  He needs to
       get his head out of Mr. Rectum over drafting, and paying the
       price for talent, and actually thinking that you might bring
       talent--and not only trade fodder--through your minor-league
       system.  And his passive-aggressive crap when dealing with Ozzie
       is a big strike, but a fresh manager may help with a lot of
       this.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       New theory on the Dunn / Rios situations:
       Ozzie likes "NL-style ball."
       He must've meant that he's been longing for an automatic out in
       the lineup.
       #Post#: 5806--------------------------------------------------
       Re: POLL:  Which one change should Jerry Reinsdorf make this
       off-season?
   DIR By: AndyMacFAIL
       Date: September 4, 2011, 10:33 pm
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       A couple of recent Joe Cowley tweets:
       --- Quote ---
       > cst_Cowley
       >
       > You can change the GM, manager, hitting coach and the damn
       uniform colors. Fact is you aren't changing the fact that Rios
       and Dunn are back.
       >
       > 1 hour ago
       --- End Quote ---
       --- Quote ---
       > cst_Cowley
       >
       > Average team, bad contracts, too many players that don't have
       the foxhole mentality to win baseball games over the course of
       162 games.
       >
       > 1 hour ago
       --- End Quote ---
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       #Post#: 5809--------------------------------------------------
       Re: POLL:  Which one change should Jerry Reinsdorf make this
       off-season?
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: September 5, 2011, 6:35 am
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       Who is to say that a new GM couldnt unload Rios or Dunn?
       #Post#: 5810--------------------------------------------------
       Re: POLL:  Which one change should Jerry Reinsdorf make this
       off-season?
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: September 5, 2011, 6:38 am
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       Why drag up the uniform colors? That hasnt got anything to do
       with the production on the field.
       #Post#: 5811--------------------------------------------------
       Re: POLL:  Which one change should Jerry Reinsdorf make this
       off-season?
   DIR By: SoxRule
       Date: September 5, 2011, 9:48 am
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       If both players start off slow next year, maybe the new manager
       will know how to use them properly, either by not batting them
       in critical spots in the order or not playing them at all.
       #Post#: 5812--------------------------------------------------
       Re: POLL:  Which one change should Jerry Reinsdorf make this
       off-season?
   DIR By: joeconners
       Date: September 5, 2011, 10:03 am
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       Maybe a hitting coach will be able to pull heads out of rectal
       orifices.
       #Post#: 5816--------------------------------------------------
       Re: POLL:  Which one change should Jerry Reinsdorf make this
       off-season?
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: September 5, 2011, 10:35 am
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       --- Quote from: joeconners link ---
       >
       > Maybe a hitting coach will be able to pull heads out of rectal
       orifices.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The odds against that are a million to one. We have to be
       sending that to the miracle department. Besides, Dunn's problem
       seems to be his bat speed or not seeing the ball well. He seems
       to not make contract right when he does connect.
       #Post#: 5817--------------------------------------------------
       Re: POLL:  Which one change should Jerry Reinsdorf make this
       off-season?
   DIR By: Fury
       Date: September 5, 2011, 10:39 am
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       --- Quote from: WshflThinking link ---
       >
       > Why drag up the uniform colors? That hasnt got anything to do
       with the production on the field.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The uniform colors are fine.  Cowley was just making a point.
       No "foxhole mentality."  Exactly.
       I think you have to write off this year for Dunn and give him a
       chance to start fresh next year.  If he continues to stink it
       up, then do something with him.
       As for Rios, package him in a trade with another player
       (Beckham?  Pierre?) demote him to AAA, eat his salary...
       anything, just keep him off the field.
       I wouldn't mind seeing almost a whole new lineup out there for
       2012 and go through a rebuilding year or two.  Just remove the
       stench that comprises this current team.
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