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POLL: What is KW worst trade move as GM?
DIR By: AndyMacFAIL
Date: April 21, 2011, 5:15 pm
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a five day poll
What is KW's worst trade move as GM of the White Sox?
Please limit your choice to a TRADE move, not a free agent
signing (e.g. Linebrink), a waiver acquisition (e.g. Rios or
Manny) or not allowing one of the CWS free agents to sign with
another team (e.g. Putz or Frank Thomas [placed here for
Shoeless]).
If you choose 'other' please enlighten the rest of us on what
you think his worst trade has been as GM.
one vote per member but you have the option of changing your
vote if someone's argument gives you a different view.
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Re: POLL: What is KW worst trade move as GM?
DIR By: msf
Date: April 21, 2011, 6:55 pm
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I had to say the Swisher trades. We lost Gio and Sweeney in the
A's deal, then we give up Sweeney for nothing. He makes the All
Star team. Pretty dumb if you ask me.
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Re: POLL: What is KW worst trade move as GM?
DIR By: Method
Date: April 21, 2011, 11:49 pm
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Think you meant swisher made the all star team.
I can totally see why the swisher trade was made... cant
begrudge what we gave up to make the trade... why we got rid of
him and for that little... god only knows...
But those two trades were not nearly as crushing as...
1) Todd Ritchie trade... holy f'n hell what did he go 1-15 after
being billed as the legitimate ACE this team needed.
2) David wells... what a fat piece of absolute crap...
3) Berry/barry hard choice... not due to the players involved..
but the sheer idiocy and clumsiness of not being able to get the
right f'n player back in a trade... it showed a certain lvl of
sloppiness that can be xcused if caused by a 1st year intern,
but inexcusable for the GM of a
MLB franchise. If he were my employee, i'd have fired him for
that one.
generally speaking KW has a **** poor record trading away MLB
players and getting anything of worth... hes done pretty well in
the smaller deals though. Hindsight probably places the rowand
trade pretty low as well... really took away from the core of
the 05 team.
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Re: POLL: What is KW worst trade move as GM?
DIR By: AndyMacFAIL
Date: April 22, 2011, 2:28 am
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While both Swisher trades didn't pan out, the Teahen contract
extension was a mistake and Daniel Hudson is turning out to be a
very good pitcher, I voted the Peavy trade as the worse move.
Mostly for the money involved.
Jake Peavy's been a member of the White Sox organization for 1
year and 2 months of MLB service time. Over that period, $18+
million has already been paid to Peavy for a 10-6 record, 127 IP
and a ERA of 4.11. Plus we're still on the hook for an
additional $15M this season, $17M next year and a team option of
$22M ($4M buyout) in 2013. If Peavy never wins another MLB
game, the White Sox would pay him a minimum of $54M for 10 wins.
Even if he returns, it's very doubtful that he'll ever return
to the Cy Young winning level of his past.
Another reason is that Clayton Richard, one of the five players
we trade for Jake, has done well pitching for San Diego. Since
the trade, Richard has gone 20-11 pitching over 285 innings with
a 3.88 ERA while earning a total of less than $525,000 during
his time with the Padres. Richard isn't an ace or a #2 pitcher.
He probably tops out as a #3 pitcher at best but he'd sure look
good on our team right now and would allow us to easily make the
decision to let Buehrle leave via free agency after this season.
Richard also won't be eligible for free agency until after the
2014 season.
It would be nice right now to have another 200+IP per season
lefty starting pitcher on the 25-man roster and the $15M savings
left in the budget to spend on fixing the bullpen holes on this
club now and in the near future.
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Re: POLL: What is KW worst trade move as GM?
DIR By: Fury
Date: April 22, 2011, 11:49 am
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All good points, Andy. I'm not liking the Peavy trade at all
right now. It doesn't look like Jake will have much longevity
with the Sox or even in baseball.
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Re: POLL: What is KW worst trade move as GM?
DIR By: Method
Date: April 22, 2011, 12:03 pm
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Peavy trade costs the white sox nothing other then Richard... as
his contract came with an exsisting insurance policy... we
recoup 80% of his injury pay.
Richard also has great numbers due to playing at petco... so far
his home park BAA is .224 on the road its a whopping .304.
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Re: POLL: What is KW worst trade move as GM?
DIR By: Joshpr
Date: April 22, 2011, 3:06 pm
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The swisher deal and the todd richie deal
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Re: POLL: What is KW worst trade move as GM?
DIR By: ISF
Date: April 22, 2011, 7:53 pm
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Trading Swisher away.
We had no LH replacement bat and we got useless crap in return.
Had we kept Swisher, the trade for wold look pretty even. Gio is
pretty good,
but Swisher would have produced for us.
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Re: POLL: What is KW worst trade move as GM?
DIR By: dazed63
Date: April 22, 2011, 9:05 pm
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All bad but Teabag was given an extension making him all but
impossible to move.
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Re: POLL: What is KW worst trade move as GM?
DIR By: Method
Date: April 22, 2011, 9:52 pm
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I dont think he's unmovable... if he keeps hitting like he has
in his limited time... he's easily movable...
He's also a great 1b/of replacement bat.... kinda like Kotsay...
Granted we are paying the a hole like hes the starting f'n 3bman
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