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       #Post#: 3934--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Suggestions & Comments 
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: July 8, 2011, 1:34 pm
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       Yes but whos job is it to get the best out of them?
       #Post#: 3936--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Suggestions & Comments 
   DIR By: Fury
       Date: July 8, 2011, 3:13 pm
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       --- Quote from: WshflThinking link ---
       >
       > Yes but whos job is it to get the best out of them?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Right, just hold a gun to their heads.
       It's up to the player to produce.
       Some "talent" just isn't there, other "talent" isn't being put
       into play.
       #Post#: 3937--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Suggestions & Comments 
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: July 8, 2011, 4:13 pm
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       --- Quote from: Fury link ---
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       > [quote author=WshflThinking link=topic=2.msg3934#msg3934
       date=1310150094]
       > Yes but whos job is it to get the best out of them?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Right, just hold a gun to their heads.
       It's up to the player to produce.
       Some "talent" just isn't there, other "talent" isn't being put
       into play.
       [/quote]
       But if they are underperforming its the managers job to manage
       the team to get the most out of them. If its a talent problem
       then its the GM's baby
       #Post#: 3940--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Suggestions & Comments 
   DIR By: Method
       Date: July 8, 2011, 5:30 pm
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       Rios pickup was bad bad bad idea.
       #Post#: 3942--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Suggestions & Comments 
   DIR By: Fury
       Date: July 8, 2011, 6:49 pm
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       --- Quote from: WshflThinking link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Fury link=topic=2.msg3936#msg3936
       date=1310156010]
       > [quote author=WshflThinking link=topic=2.msg3934#msg3934
       date=1310150094]
       > Yes but whos job is it to get the best out of them?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Right, just hold a gun to their heads.
       It's up to the player to produce.
       Some "talent" just isn't there, other "talent" isn't being put
       into play.
       [/quote]
       But if they are underperforming its the managers job to manage
       the team to get the most out of them. If its a talent problem
       then its the GM's baby
       [/quote]
       Most of the blame for this stinky team can be laid at the feet
       of Kenny, not Ozzie.
       #Post#: 3976--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Suggestions & Comments 
   DIR By: Fury
       Date: July 10, 2011, 10:07 am
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       Seeing Ronald McDonald on the banner today makes me want to
       kill.
       #Post#: 3979--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Suggestions & Comments 
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: July 10, 2011, 1:58 pm
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       Isnt this the last year of Ozzie's contract?
       #Post#: 3989--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Suggestions & Comments 
   DIR By: AndyMacFAIL
       Date: July 11, 2011, 12:34 am
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       --- Quote from: WshflThinking link ---
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       > Isnt this the last year of Ozzie's contract?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No.
       Ozzie Guillen Manager
       3 years (2009-11), plus 2012 option
       signed extension with White Sox 9/11/07
       option becomes guaranteed with division title in 2011
       White Sox exercised 2012 option 1/21/11
       2 years (2007-08), plus 2009 club option
       signed extension with White Sox 5/05
       White Sox also picked up 2006 option 5/05
       07:$1.1M
       2 years (2004-05), plus 2006 club option
       hired 11/03, replacing Jerry Manuel
       #Post#: 3994--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Suggestions & Comments 
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: July 11, 2011, 7:53 am
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       OK so they picked up the 2012 option.
       #Post#: 3995--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Suggestions & Comments 
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: July 11, 2011, 7:55 am
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       He sure isnt winning a division title this year
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