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Re: The World Today
DIR By: Method
Date: May 9, 2011, 2:16 pm
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<i>No, it wasn't. Unless of course you are saying that GWB going
into Iraq was the wrong thing to do because you think we should
have gone in when he attacked the Kurds back in the day. How
about Sudan? Niger? How do we decide which people shouldn't be
slaughtered?</i>
Sure back in the day... way way way back in the day when lord
god reagen was incharge. When GWB went it the no fly zone was
protecting the kurds just fine.
So in the rights world GWB is awesome for going into iraq but
going into Libya was a mistake... what a joke.
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Re: The World Today
DIR By: JhonJeterWD40
Date: May 9, 2011, 2:18 pm
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vs one set on fighting daddies wars in Iraq!
Hey, that's Fury13's line. It is classic though. That Oliver
Stone movie was pretty entertaining actually.
Elsewhere, will someone PLEASE post a negative shot at Herman
Cain?
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Re: The World Today
DIR By: ISF
Date: May 9, 2011, 2:44 pm
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--- Quote from: WshflThinking link ---
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> If killing Bin Laden is the beginning of the end of
Afghanistan, it wont work. Obama cant just say that our goals
for Afghanistan are complete and pull all the troops out.
>
--- End Quote ---
Sure he can. Our mission in that country was to bring the
perpetrators of 9/11 and the government giving them safe haven
to justice. We've done that. Time to come home.
Continuing to chase Al Qaeda and/or the Taliban all over that
country is not a mission. Al Qaeda is a global operation with
cells in many countries. Don't need 100,000 troops in
Afghanistan to make country safe. Putting a tiny fraction of
that amount on our own southern border would have more positive
impact on our national security.
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Re: The World Today
DIR By: ISF
Date: May 9, 2011, 2:59 pm
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--- Quote from: Method link ---
>
> So in the rights world GWB is awesome for going into iraq but
going into Libya was a mistake... what a joke.
>
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No. In hindsight (it being 20/20), going into Iraq was a
mistake. That doesn't change the fact that at the time, there
was no way to simply say it was or wasn't the right call. If GWB
doesn't go in, and 2 years later Saddam has a nuclear/chemical
arsenal at his disposal, would you have said "But that's ok, not
acting on the intel was the right move?"
Your justification for Libya isn't that we should learn from
history, but rather, that since the GOP President made the wrong
call based on intel he had that pointed at a possible threat, we
should rejoice and encourage Empty Suit making the wrong call
based on no indication whatsoever that Gaddhafi is interested in
being a threat.
If during ESOTUS' 16-hour siesta, Bin Laden had left the
compound and found his way to a different safe haven, and the
mission inside Pakistan ended up a failure, would you have
called ESOTUS a f*ck-up, or would you have said he made the
right call based on the intel available?
Just curious.
Sorry, I don't play that. That isn't what ESOTUS campaigned on
and it's not what he was given a Nobel for.
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Re: The World Today
DIR By: boatdrink
Date: May 9, 2011, 3:13 pm
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--- Quote from: Method link ---
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>
> May i ask what these initial pieces of information were? or
where you got that news? i havent had a chance to catch up all
the news from the last 12 odd days.
>
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From the AP...
[i]Shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks,
detainees in the CIA's secret prison network told interrogators
about an important courier with the nom de guerre Abu Ahmed
al-Kuwaiti who was close to bin Laden. After the CIA captured
al-Qaida's No. 3 leader, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, he confirmed
knowing al-Kuwaiti but denied he had anything to do with
al-Qaida.
Then in 2004, top al-Qaida operative Hassan Ghul was captured in
Iraq. Ghul told the CIA that al-Kuwaiti was a courier, someone
crucial to the terrorist organization. In particular, Ghul said,
the courier was close to Faraj al-Libi, who replaced Mohammed as
al-Qaida's operational commander. It was a key break in the hunt
for in bin Laden's personal courier.
"Hassan Ghul was the linchpin," a U.S. official said.
Finally, in May 2005, al-Libi was captured. Under CIA
interrogation, al-Libi admitted that when he was promoted to
succeed Mohammed, he received the word through a courier. But he
made up a name for the courier and denied knowing al-Kuwaiti, a
denial that was so adamant and unbelievable that the CIA took it
as confirmation that he and Mohammed were protecting the
courier. It only reinforced the idea that al-Kuwaiti was very
important to al-Qaida.
If they could find the man known as al-Kuwaiti, they'd find bin
Laden.
The revelation that intelligence gleaned from the CIA's
so-called black sites helped kill bin Laden was seen as
vindication for many intelligence officials who have been
repeatedly investigated and criticized for their involvement in
a program that involved the harshest interrogation methods in
U.S. history.
"We got beat up for it, but those efforts led to this great
day," said Marty Martin, a retired CIA officer who for years led
the hunt for bin Laden.
HTML http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hzn2dQHiUZBXHeHm6Lv78Uz6SwAA?docId=aaf5f9e12731497d8a3147a0e47899d4
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Re: The World Today
DIR By: boatdrink
Date: May 9, 2011, 3:23 pm
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--- Quote from: JhonJeterWD40 link ---
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> Elsewhere, will someone PLEASE post a negative shot at Herman
Cain?
>
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I have deemed any criticism of Herman Cain as racist. It worked
for the libs, right?
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Re: The World Today
DIR By: JhonJeterWD40
Date: May 9, 2011, 3:42 pm
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Quick, delete that! you're going to ruin the fun
#Post#: 1524--------------------------------------------------
Re: The World Today
DIR By: boatdrink
Date: May 9, 2011, 3:44 pm
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heh... done.
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Re: The World Today
DIR By: ISF
Date: May 9, 2011, 3:44 pm
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--- Quote from: boatdrink link ---
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> [quote author=JhonJeterWD40 link=topic=13.msg1518#msg1518
date=1304968693]
> Elsewhere, will someone PLEASE post a negative shot at Herman
Cain?
>
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I have deemed any criticism of Herman Cain as racist. It worked
for the libs, right?
[/quote]
Rabid moonbats have already called him a "Black Garbage Pail
Kid" and a "Race Minstrel".
So, Jeter, if you're looking for negative comments, there are a
few out there.
Hell, I'd say if you can find Keith Olbermann, you might find a
treasure trove of them.
#Post#: 1526--------------------------------------------------
Re: The World Today
DIR By: JhonJeterWD40
Date: May 9, 2011, 4:04 pm
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Actually I was curious what people here had to say about him. We
know what boatdrink thinks, just curious about your Methods,
your Shoelesses, your (mia) WhiteSoxDopes, etc.
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