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#Post#: 2121--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Bullpen Bar, Patio, & Picnic Area
DIR By: msf
Date: May 19, 2011, 12:49 pm
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--- Quote from: 4nek8 link ---
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> And 34 years and 11 months ago they asked you to leave?
>
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I do not think it took that long
#Post#: 2123--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Bullpen Bar, Patio, & Picnic Area
DIR By: msf
Date: May 19, 2011, 12:53 pm
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--- Quote from: 4nek8 link ---
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> I almost joined too -- the Marines though. Took the ASFAB and
everything, recruiter told me I could pretty much pick any field
available to a non-com. Ultimately, the basic training scared
me off. That recruiter was hounding me pretty good too, he
thought he bagged him a grunt.
>
> In retrospect, I should have joined. I think it would have
given me the discipline that I sorely lacked as a young adult,
discipline that took me a couple of decades to learn on my own
with considerable turmoil through trial-and-error.
>
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Fortunately I had a brother-in-law who was just getting out of
the USAF when I was enlisting. He actually convinced me, said it
was just like any other job if you had kids etc..., which I did,
as you lived off base and did not really have to do a lot of the
BS stuff. Basic would have been tougher without his advice. All
he said was "let them think they are getting to you, molding
you, its a game, just let them think that, but inside you know
better". It seemed to work. Actually, that kind of worked for
IBM too.
#Post#: 2128--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Bullpen Bar, Patio, & Picnic Area
DIR By: Method
Date: May 19, 2011, 1:35 pm
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--- Quote from: 4nek8 link ---
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> I almost joined too -- the Marines though. Took the ASFAB and
everything, recruiter told me I could pretty much pick any field
available to a non-com. Ultimately, the basic training scared
me off. That recruiter was hounding me pretty good too, he
thought he bagged him a grunt.
>
> In retrospect, I should have joined. I think it would have
given me the discipline that I sorely lacked as a young adult,
discipline that took me a couple of decades to learn on my own
with considerable turmoil through trial-and-error.
>
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It appears we are following similar life paths... I almost
joined the USAF but was told I'd be placed in only non-combat
type roles as i was a naturalized citizen, this didn't really
bother me all that much. However my parents insistence i go to
college first... won out.
In retrospect, going to the USAF would probably have given me
the discipline to pick just ONE major and not jump around all
over the place.
#Post#: 2129--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Bullpen Bar, Patio, & Picnic Area
DIR By: 4nek8
Date: May 19, 2011, 1:44 pm
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Actually, that kind of worked for IBM too
And that's how you became the automaton that you are today...
#Post#: 2130--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Bullpen Bar, Patio, & Picnic Area
DIR By: Fury
Date: May 19, 2011, 1:58 pm
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--- Quote from: msf link ---
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> [quote author=4nek8 link=topic=12.msg2120#msg2120
date=1305827157]
> I almost joined too -- the Marines though. Took the ASFAB and
everything, recruiter told me I could pretty much pick any field
available to a non-com. Ultimately, the basic training scared
me off. That recruiter was hounding me pretty good too, he
thought he bagged him a grunt.
>
> In retrospect, I should have joined. I think it would have
given me the discipline that I sorely lacked as a young adult,
discipline that took me a couple of decades to learn on my own
with considerable turmoil through trial-and-error.
>
--- End Quote ---
Fortunately I had a brother-in-law who was just getting out of
the USAF when I was enlisting. He actually convinced me, said it
was just like any other job if you had kids etc..., which I did,
as you lived off base and did not really have to do a lot of the
BS stuff. Basic would have been tougher without his advice. All
he said was "let them think they are getting to you, molding
you, its a game, just let them think that, but inside you know
better". It seemed to work. Actually, that kind of worked for
IBM too.
[/quote]
I was in the USAF too, for a six-year enlistment. It definitely
helped with my self-discipline. I agree with what you said
about basic... you had to think it was all a game (which it
was). Air Force basic training wasn't physically hard, but they
constantly messed with your mind. I remember that one day, from
sunup to sunset, all we did was stay in the barracks and make,
then tear apart, and remake our beds... never to the TI's
satisfaction. I was an older recruit (25); I handled the mental
manipulation well, so there were a few 18- and 19-year-olds
asking my advice on how to get through it.
#Post#: 2131--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Bullpen Bar, Patio, & Picnic Area
DIR By: JhonJeterWD40
Date: May 19, 2011, 2:06 pm
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LOL, you guys make it sound like SEALs BUD/s training. The
"messing with your mind" was minimal, all you had to do was what
you were told. I remember a lot of mockery and laughing my ass
off on many occasions during USN basic training.
#Post#: 2132--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Bullpen Bar, Patio, & Picnic Area
DIR By: aka Loveland
Date: May 19, 2011, 2:49 pm
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If I remember correctly Oats was a Seal once-upon-a-time.
#Post#: 2134--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Bullpen Bar, Patio, & Picnic Area
DIR By: msf
Date: May 19, 2011, 3:13 pm
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Yes he was.
#Post#: 2138--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Bullpen Bar, Patio, & Picnic Area
DIR By: 4nek8
Date: May 19, 2011, 4:16 pm
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He's killed more men with a rubber band than I've had birthdays.
That's all you need to know.
And that's all you're allowed to know.
#Post#: 2139--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Bullpen Bar, Patio, & Picnic Area
DIR By: JhonJeterWD40
Date: May 19, 2011, 4:25 pm
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I don't recall Minoats mentioning he was a SEAL. I'd need to
hear it from the man himself. He was USN, but I don't think
SEAL. Someone find out. Method, give him a call or a quick
email.
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