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#Post#: 1793--------------------------------------------------
Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: Fury
Date: May 12, 2011, 12:51 pm
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> How does someone with 7 no-hitters get tagged over-rated?
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> That is asinine in my book.
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Well, Ryan wasn't on any World Series-winning teams other than
his early 1969 Mets success (and that was before he became the
"legend" Nolan Ryan). His arrival on a new ballclub didn't
improve the team, overall. He was all about his own stats and
not about helping his team; hence, he never won a Cy Young
award. His lifetime winning percentage was only .526. He also
walked more batters than anyone else in MLB history. Typical
arrogant Texan, too, if you ask me.
You might check this out:
HTML http://static.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/neyer_rob/1383697.html
#Post#: 1796--------------------------------------------------
Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: ISF
Date: May 12, 2011, 1:04 pm
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--- Quote from: Fury link ---
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> [quote author=ISF link=topic=11.msg1006#msg1006
date=1304001883]
> How does someone with 7 no-hitters get tagged over-rated?
>
> That is asinine in my book.
>
--- End Quote ---
Well, Ryan wasn't on any World Series-winning teams other than
his early 1969 Mets success (and that was before he became the
"legend" Nolan Ryan). His arrival on a new ballclub didn't
improve the team, overall. He was all about his own stats and
not about helping his team; hence, he never won a Cy Young
award. His lifetime winning percentage was only .526. He also
walked more batters than anyone else in MLB history. Typical
arrogant Texan, too, if you ask me.
You might check this out:
HTML http://static.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/neyer_rob/1383697.html
[/quote]
- 100 points for referencing Rob Neyer. You know he's a KC fan,
don't you? I'm surprised he didn't try to make a HOF case for
Dan Quisenberry.
#Post#: 1799--------------------------------------------------
Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: JhonJeterWD40
Date: May 12, 2011, 1:18 pm
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He was all about his own stats and not about helping his team
How does that translate at all to baseball? Selfish bastard- all
those Ks, depriving teammates of valuable assists and putouts. I
bet he tagged runners out himself instead of flipping the ball
to a fielder when he had the choice. Mediocre pitchers
languishing in middle relief got screwed by him as well, all
those complete games. What a p r i c k.
That being said, he was a great strikeout pitcher, but I agree
with "meh" on him as an all-around pitcher.
#Post#: 1804--------------------------------------------------
Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: Fury
Date: May 12, 2011, 1:33 pm
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--- Quote from: ISF link ---
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> [quote author=Fury link=topic=11.msg1793#msg1793
date=1305222678]
> [quote author=ISF link=topic=11.msg1006#msg1006
date=1304001883]
> How does someone with 7 no-hitters get tagged over-rated?
>
> That is asinine in my book.
>
--- End Quote ---
Well, Ryan wasn't on any World Series-winning teams other than
his early 1969 Mets success (and that was before he became the
"legend" Nolan Ryan). His arrival on a new ballclub didn't
improve the team, overall. He was all about his own stats and
not about helping his team; hence, he never won a Cy Young
award. His lifetime winning percentage was only .526. He also
walked more batters than anyone else in MLB history. Typical
arrogant Texan, too, if you ask me.
You might check this out:
HTML http://static.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/neyer_rob/1383697.html
[/quote]
- 100 points for referencing Rob Neyer. You know he's a KC fan,
don't you? I'm surprised he didn't try to make a HOF case for
Dan Quisenberry.
[/quote]
Whatever... Neyer makes some good points. The thing is, Ryan
has some impressive career numbers only because of sheer
longevity. But if you look at percentages and the fact that he
never got into a World Series (after pitching strictly in relief
in '69), he doesn't come off that great. He wasn't on any
really awful teams, yet he couldn't bring in a winner. He just
wasn't a team player, IMO, and I'll stand by that.
He's no Jack Morris.
#Post#: 1809--------------------------------------------------
Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: ISF
Date: May 12, 2011, 1:45 pm
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[rob neyer]
Dan Quisenberry finished in the top 5 in Cy Young voting 5
times.
He finished in the top 10 of MVP voting 4 times
He was a 3-time All-Star.
He led the league in Saves twice.
He is 31st in career saves.
At the height of his career, Quisenberry averaged 135 IP per
year AS A CLOSER!
Legend has it that when Mariano Rivera first met Quisenberry,
Quisenberry gave him a wedgie and told him to buy a cut
fastball.
[/rob neyer]
#Post#: 1819--------------------------------------------------
Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: msf
Date: May 12, 2011, 2:50 pm
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Someone needs to photoshop LaRussa working a roofing job.
#Post#: 1821--------------------------------------------------
Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: joeconners
Date: May 12, 2011, 2:58 pm
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> Someone needs to photoshop LaRussa working a roofing job.
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Tony, or the daughter?
#Post#: 1822--------------------------------------------------
Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: msf
Date: May 12, 2011, 3:03 pm
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Tony, smart ass ;D
#Post#: 1823--------------------------------------------------
Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: msf
Date: May 12, 2011, 3:04 pm
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If I had wanted a photo of his daughter I would have asked for a
photoshop of her as a fluffer.
#Post#: 1907--------------------------------------------------
Re: Around Baseball
DIR By: AndyMacFAIL
Date: May 13, 2011, 4:15 pm
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Magglio Ordonez takes his .172 batting average to the
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